Learflyer

Holy $hit what a stupid statement. Were we supposed to sit on our hands because this is a "natural" process? A bunch of pilots also continue to state the death rate (albeit it is low). But there are more issues out there with Long Haul Covid symptoms in the very young and old alike. Long-Haul is a big problem right now.

Knobcrk1

Yea I find it hilarious that the minister of virus info here who sometimes fed us 2 or 3 threads at a time for months that were not so subtly skewed, can’t take it. Fact that he has to block proves how skewed they are.

Mesabah

Yep, even if you were an asymptomatic infection case, exposure to the spike protein caused long term tissue damage. However, in almost all cases it will reverse.

galaxy flyer

Wait a minute, when precisely did I say “do nothing”? We did, we invented a series of vaccines very quickly which, having used tech developed over the past 20 years, has proved miraculously effective. That is something remarkable. Walking around, indeed having been vaccinated, wearing masks, restricting entries on businesses, taking temperatures 5 times a day ( LTC facility that is fully vaccinated, is nuts. Lockdowns were panic responses done by politicians on the advice of bureaucrats that refused to take any risks resulting in more risks like thousands of dead who should have been protected. We knew pretty quickly who was in danger and did a poor job of preventing infections.

galaxy flyer

Where did I say “do nothing”? Like any emergency, don’t panic, follow the procedures. WHO never considered the procedure of locking down a society as viable procedure. So why did we do it? Panic. Many of those 550,00 died because politicians refused to protect the elderly—FACT. Masks are effective to a degree if a person is infected—FACT well proven. Testing of persons displaying symptoms is an effective diagnostic procedure-FACT. Wearing masks all the time regardless of infection status was and is a waste as was sterilizing every possible surface. We know that now and knew it pretty quickly. PCR testing in the absence of symptoms was likely of little value at the prevalence of the disease. But, it made feel better. The population fatality rate was 30% of the Spanish flu. A Western individual based society didn’t stand a chance of duplicating the Chinese outcome. Another uncomfortable fact.

Knobcrk1

This part is just your own fantasy. In addition, you’re implying that people would have been forced to get infected. You’re basically saying, somehow, place the vulnerable in the basement and let those that want to get infected get infected. Reality doesn’t work like that. You can’t stand the fact that we did it right, and that required you to do something very uncomfortable like care about your fellow citizens. I mean you just said you would have been ok with all the dead as long as you got to go out. They somehow managed to try to limit cases even though we still did worse than 90% of other countries, mostly due to your side, and got the vaccine done in an attempt to reach herd immunity.

Halon1211

I did the 100 day Biden challenge wearing a mask. Now that day has came and gone. So why are we still having to wear mask on a plane? Did the president just Rick Roll us?

galaxy flyer

Do you understand the outcomes on states like NY, NJ, MA, PA where elderly were put in with infected BY STATE DIRECTION? I live near one of the facilities where dozens died because no one cared. Cuomo, among other governors, required retuning infected elderly back to LTC causing a scandal of immense proportions. Hopefully, he’ll be indicted. My mother is on LTC in FL that’s had a perfect record. It took a year to open up but it worked. I applaud that action from the beginning. She was also vaccinated nearly in February.

You completely misread my position which is simply protect the elderly or otherwise vulnerable, voluntarily limit exposures by careful planning and get vaccinated. I worked when required, wore a mask indoors, avoided all restaurants and the bar scene, limited visits with unknown people to zero and fairly low number of visits with friends. I’m 68, many friends are both older and younger. Outdoors at a shooting range we never masked as it was silly and hard to hit anything with fogged glasses. You likely can’t infect by exhaling your breath in 15 mph wind. I’ll took the risks as did others. Hang for the indoor lunch, no way. Once vaccinated, game over for the individual, very low risk without the silly masking among other silliness like temp checks.

There is zero evidence that the NFI, as instituted, did anything to materially change the COVID virus, anywhere,

Am in an individualist and mostly selfish, guilty. Did I infect anybody, no. Job Done. I live to ensure that I don’t impact others, driving, flying, living.

FlewUnderWires

I apologize for my countrymen. I did watch the video. It was great. It reminded me of a similar recent piece by John Oliver. It wish more people would take a step back and analyze their stances using these metrics and overall basic thinking critically and being aware of our own biases. I just don’t know the best way to get everyone to do to that.

There has been SO much cherry picking of data and dismissal of evidence solely on the source (even/especially when that source is unbiased and reputable like Reuters and AP.) but it seems like we can’t even discuss the existence of implicit bias without things becoming a partisan shouting match of unrelated talking points that people want to repeat.

Meekrob

Because covid is never going away, the democrats are never going to drop it. Biden has to keep the crisis going or he will have no grounds to blowout spending in the way he's proposed. What are we up to now, $10T proposed in 3 months?