“Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide”
#11
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Why is it hard grasp the idea no one, yes world wide, even cares about the common flu? The absolute singular focus is in COVID. All testing, government announcements, media fear mongering and such made people forget to check and see if they got the flu.
Sure being inside and all the hand washing helps, but basically zero common flu being stopped? Not fishy at all just a change of focus and mass hysteria over the “deadly” COVID virus caused all of us to forget there was another virus out there.
Sure being inside and all the hand washing helps, but basically zero common flu being stopped? Not fishy at all just a change of focus and mass hysteria over the “deadly” COVID virus caused all of us to forget there was another virus out there.
Also what do you mean “forgot to check to see if they got the flu” before this would you regularly go get a flu test each season to see if you got it? Do you think we should or ever did do blanket testing of asymptomatic individuals for flu? Do you think that a doctor treating a covid negative patient would just give up and forget to see if it was anything else and just mark it down as covid, risking a malpractice lawsuit?
Wild claims like these need stronger evidence than “they forgot about flu”
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100 of thousands of flu tests in the last few months doesn’t equate to the 10s of millions of cases normally seen in a year. We’re past the worst part of flu season btw.
I’m married to a medical professional. Her hospital system absolutely quit testing for the flu. That’s not where the money was or is. And they were absolutely mis labeling patients and deaths as Covid that were not. I cannot help but think that was certainly a nationwide and likely global trend. That’s anecdotal, but either she and our friends and relatives in medicine were lying about it, or we magically cured the flu in a year by not trying to cure the flu.
Covid is real and many people have died from it. I know of more than a few that had a rough go with it. None that have died thankfully. But this thing has absolutely been used and abused for the purposes of everything from political narratives and outcomes to enriching medical systems and beyond.
I’m married to a medical professional. Her hospital system absolutely quit testing for the flu. That’s not where the money was or is. And they were absolutely mis labeling patients and deaths as Covid that were not. I cannot help but think that was certainly a nationwide and likely global trend. That’s anecdotal, but either she and our friends and relatives in medicine were lying about it, or we magically cured the flu in a year by not trying to cure the flu.
Covid is real and many people have died from it. I know of more than a few that had a rough go with it. None that have died thankfully. But this thing has absolutely been used and abused for the purposes of everything from political narratives and outcomes to enriching medical systems and beyond.
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100 of thousands of flu tests in the last few months doesn’t equate to the 10s of millions of cases normally seen in a year. We’re past the worst part of flu season btw.
I’m married to a medical professional. Her hospital system absolutely quit testing for the flu. That’s not where the money was or is. And they were absolutely mis labeling patients and deaths as Covid that were not. I cannot help but think that was certainly a nationwide and likely global trend. That’s anecdotal, but either she and our friends and relatives in medicine were lying about it, or we magically cured the flu in a year by not trying to cure the flu.
Covid is real and many people have died from it. I know of more than a few that had a rough go with it. None that have died thankfully. But this thing has absolutely been used and abused for the purposes of everything from political narratives and outcomes to enriching medical systems and beyond.
I’m married to a medical professional. Her hospital system absolutely quit testing for the flu. That’s not where the money was or is. And they were absolutely mis labeling patients and deaths as Covid that were not. I cannot help but think that was certainly a nationwide and likely global trend. That’s anecdotal, but either she and our friends and relatives in medicine were lying about it, or we magically cured the flu in a year by not trying to cure the flu.
Covid is real and many people have died from it. I know of more than a few that had a rough go with it. None that have died thankfully. But this thing has absolutely been used and abused for the purposes of everything from political narratives and outcomes to enriching medical systems and beyond.
I am married to a doctor too. They have not stopped testing for flu and have absolutely not been led or encouraged to diagnose more things as covid. If anything they have had to merge their covid ICUs back into normal MICUs and approach Covid the same as anything else. It sounds like you should report your wife and/or her hospital for fraud if that’s the case.
How is it so hard to believe that strategies to prevent respiratory illness had an impact on more than one type of medical illness, or that covid is simply more prevalent, transmissible and severe than influenza.
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The 0.1% positivity rate of those hundreds of thousands of tests DOES mean something though. A fraction of the percentage of covid positive case percentages. Not “more tests show more results” but more tests that are performed have been positive.
I am married to a doctor too. They have not stopped testing for flu and have absolutely not been led or encouraged to diagnose more things as covid. If anything they have had to merge their covid ICUs back into normal MICUs and approach Covid the same as anything else. It sounds like you should report your wife and/or her hospital for fraud if that’s the case.
How is it so hard to believe that strategies to prevent respiratory illness had an impact on more than one type of medical illness, or that covid is simply more prevalent, transmissible and severe than influenza.
I am married to a doctor too. They have not stopped testing for flu and have absolutely not been led or encouraged to diagnose more things as covid. If anything they have had to merge their covid ICUs back into normal MICUs and approach Covid the same as anything else. It sounds like you should report your wife and/or her hospital for fraud if that’s the case.
How is it so hard to believe that strategies to prevent respiratory illness had an impact on more than one type of medical illness, or that covid is simply more prevalent, transmissible and severe than influenza.
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My personal experience is this, no one I know is being testing for AB flu when they have experienced symptoms. The very first test they received was COVID and if it was negative the clinics just let it ride, no follow up flu test.
When faced with a more “deadly” virus who cares if you get the common cold or flu.
There wasn’t any miracle here at all. I will admit this, people are washing their hands far more than ever, which should contribute to a reduction in all viral infections. Now if people will just stop smoking, drinking, eating junk food and high fat animal based meals, exercise regularly and quit watching CNN and CNBC they will live to their full potential.
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It’s not. “Just the flu, Bro” when compared to this year’s (or any year’s) data.
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For reference, we are averaging over 600 covid deaths every day.[/QUOTE]
Let me correct that for you: we are averaging over 600 deaths every day of people who tested positive for COVID.
Let me correct that for you: we are averaging over 600 deaths every day of people who tested positive for COVID.
#18
I’m not saying we “cured the flu” or that we tried to. I’m saying that covid is MASSIVELY more severe and infectious than the flu and that mitigation strategies had a clear impact on respiratory illness transmission.
It’s not. “Just the flu, Bro” when compared to this year’s (or any year’s) data.
It’s not. “Just the flu, Bro” when compared to this year’s (or any year’s) data.
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Let me correct that for you: we are averaging over 600 deaths every day of people who tested positive for COVID.[/QUOTE]
Ok. So that’s 600 a day for people who tested positive. No matter what made up percentage of people your feelings tell you would died from something else, or however many you want to discredit as fat or elderly. That’s 600 in one day compared to 600 who had the same happen and tested positive for influenza in THE ENTIRE FLU SEASON.
And none of you have posted any evidence or statistics. Just “ur dumb if you don’t think that EVERY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL IN THE ENTIRE WORLD is lying about covid for money, but I’m not gonna try to prove it or believe that enough to try to report it or stand up to my partner’s workplace” or that “they just FORGOT (!?) to test for it”. That’s like claiming that everyone is dying from the plague and the numbers just don’t show it because they forgot to test for it to cover it up.
Do you think that oxygen is being rationed and hospitals overflowing in India because of the common flu? Do you think China shut itself down at the beginning of this because it was a common flu and no big deal? Do you think everyone has the flu and that reduced travel and public exposure didn’t prevent it from moving across hemispheres as it seasonally does? Do you think that nothing that the world has done to combat covid could have possibly impacted other diseases?
Give me something more than absence of evidence to prove your claims. Not talking points. Not anecdotes about your partner. Not denial of data or claims of nonexistent proof or missing tests.
Ok. So that’s 600 a day for people who tested positive. No matter what made up percentage of people your feelings tell you would died from something else, or however many you want to discredit as fat or elderly. That’s 600 in one day compared to 600 who had the same happen and tested positive for influenza in THE ENTIRE FLU SEASON.
And none of you have posted any evidence or statistics. Just “ur dumb if you don’t think that EVERY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL IN THE ENTIRE WORLD is lying about covid for money, but I’m not gonna try to prove it or believe that enough to try to report it or stand up to my partner’s workplace” or that “they just FORGOT (!?) to test for it”. That’s like claiming that everyone is dying from the plague and the numbers just don’t show it because they forgot to test for it to cover it up.
Do you think that oxygen is being rationed and hospitals overflowing in India because of the common flu? Do you think China shut itself down at the beginning of this because it was a common flu and no big deal? Do you think everyone has the flu and that reduced travel and public exposure didn’t prevent it from moving across hemispheres as it seasonally does? Do you think that nothing that the world has done to combat covid could have possibly impacted other diseases?
Give me something more than absence of evidence to prove your claims. Not talking points. Not anecdotes about your partner. Not denial of data or claims of nonexistent proof or missing tests.
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I’m not saying we “cured the flu” or that we tried to. I’m saying that covid is MASSIVELY more severe and infectious than the flu and that mitigation strategies had a clear impact on respiratory illness transmission.
It’s not. “Just the flu, Bro” when compared to this year’s (or any year’s) data.
It’s not. “Just the flu, Bro” when compared to this year’s (or any year’s) data.