“Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide”
#21
And none of you have posted any evidence or statistics. Just “ur dumb if you don’t think that EVERY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL IN THE ENTIRE WORLD is lying about covid for money, but I’m not gonna try to prove it or believe that enough to try to report it or stand up to my partner’s workplace” or that “they just FORGOT (!?) to test for it”. That’s like claiming that everyone is dying from the plague and the numbers just don’t show it because they forgot to test for it to cover it up.
Do you think that oxygen is being rationed and hospitals overflowing in India because of the common flu? Do you think China shut itself down at the beginning of this because it was a common flu and no big deal? Do you think everyone has the flu and that reduced travel and public exposure didn’t prevent it from moving across hemispheres as it seasonally does? Do you think that nothing that the world has done to combat covid could have possibly impacted other diseases?
Give me something more than absence of evidence to prove your claims. Not talking points. Not anecdotes about your partner. Not denial of data or claims of nonexistent proof or missing tests.[/QUOTE]
THE FEAR IS STRONG WITH THIS ONE!!!
#22
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dy-claims.html
If you are under 70 y/o, you have a 99.95% chance of survival if you somehow get infected with COVID. Enough said.
#Micdrop
If you are under 70 y/o, you have a 99.95% chance of survival if you somehow get infected with COVID. Enough said.
#Micdrop
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dy-claims.html
If you are under 70 y/o, you have a 99.95% chance of survival if you somehow get infected with COVID. Enough said.
#Micdrop
If you are under 70 y/o, you have a 99.95% chance of survival if you somehow get infected with COVID. Enough said.
#Micdrop
Second of all, you should really respect your brain more than to use the daily mail as a source, king. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/how-biased-is-your-news-source-you-probably-wont-agree-with-this-chart-2018-02-28
Thirdly, the claim you are citing is just as disingenuous and trying to use the over seventy percentage for everyone. It includes children and 20 year olds. So let’s look at someone more average 55 show .4% (ten times more than your bizarre claim) and 65 shows 1.4%
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-020-00698-1
Keeping in mind this was from an even more recent study after vaccinations had begun and treatments improved. And still back to the original topic are MUCH more than the seasonal flu.
Bonus “if you somehow get infected”....literally one in every ten Americans has somehow gotten infected.....what are you even getting at with this one.
Don’t bother picking the mic back up.
#24
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/flu-has-disappeared-worldwide-during-the-covid-pandemic/
“The U.S. saw about 600 deaths from influenza during the 2020-2021 flu season. In comparison, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated there were roughly 22,000 deaths in the prior season and 34,000 two seasons ago.“
This seems to contradict both common claims that covid is “just a flu” and that “mitigation efforts were ineffective/useless”
For reference, we are averaging over 600 covid deaths every day.
“The U.S. saw about 600 deaths from influenza during the 2020-2021 flu season. In comparison, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated there were roughly 22,000 deaths in the prior season and 34,000 two seasons ago.“
This seems to contradict both common claims that covid is “just a flu” and that “mitigation efforts were ineffective/useless”
For reference, we are averaging over 600 covid deaths every day.
This is Covidiocy at its stupidest. Everyone dies of the Covid - the flu is dead - long live the flu! Triple mask for life.
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I know you’re not big on reading or comprehension in general. But nowhere did I say that. But once again, I love that all you have to add is trying to be mean and attacking the person rather than engaging with the actual information.
#27
You might read this essay from the WSJ comparing 1957 epidemic to 2020 and see where many of your correspondents are coming from. We didn’t panic them and had similar outcomes.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-m...=hp_listc_pos3
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You might read this essay from the WSJ comparing 1957 epidemic to 2020 and see where many of your correspondents are coming from. We didn’t panic them and had similar outcomes.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-m...=hp_listc_pos3
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-m...=hp_listc_pos3
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-03-11/covid-19-was-far-deadlier-than-the-1957-and-1968-flu-pandemics
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/10/world/coronavirus-history.html
Also. I just got around the paywall. And this is a bolder, emphasized, individual paragraph by the author.....very scientific.....plus half of the article is spent gushing over Elvis and the dreamy memory of the 1950s.
“Perhaps a society with a stronger fabric of family life, community life and church life was better equipped to withstand the anguish of untimely deaths than a society that has, in so many ways, come apart.”
Another interesting tidbit about Niall Ferguson
Ferguson sometimes champions counterfactual history, also known as "speculative" or "hypothetical" history, and edited a collection of essays, titled Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals (1997), exploring the subject.
I wouldn’t take that WSJ for anything more than an opinion piece and an effort to sell his next book where the essay came from, as mentioned in the footnotes of the article.
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So it went from this is a hoax to, deaths aren’t too high, to dying is part of life to well Covid is stupid. I got my money on which mold for you too.
#30
It was behind a paywall but I did look up a few other articles about the 1957 and 1968 pandemics. Unfortunately most were a year old but this piece and many others pointed out that those pandemics were not as deadly or as transmissible as covid. Also, 65 years ago we did not have things like zoom, uber, grocery deliveries, the ability for many to work from home, or nearly the overall level of medicine as we do today that allowed us to try to implement the mitigation strategies that we have against Covid.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-flu-pandemics
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-history.html
Also. I just got around the paywall. And this is a bolder, emphasized, individual paragraph by the author.....very scientific.....plus half of the article is spent gushing over Elvis and the dreamy memory of the 1950s.
“Perhaps a society with a stronger fabric of family life, community life and church life was better equipped to withstand the anguish of untimely deaths than a society that has, in so many ways, come apart.”
Another interesting tidbit about Niall Ferguson
Ferguson sometimes champions counterfactual history, also known as "speculative" or "hypothetical" history, and edited a collection of essays, titled Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals (1997), exploring the subject.
I wouldn’t take that WSJ for anything more than an opinion piece and an effort to sell his next book where the essay came from, as mentioned in the footnotes of the article.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-flu-pandemics
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-history.html
Also. I just got around the paywall. And this is a bolder, emphasized, individual paragraph by the author.....very scientific.....plus half of the article is spent gushing over Elvis and the dreamy memory of the 1950s.
“Perhaps a society with a stronger fabric of family life, community life and church life was better equipped to withstand the anguish of untimely deaths than a society that has, in so many ways, come apart.”
Another interesting tidbit about Niall Ferguson
Ferguson sometimes champions counterfactual history, also known as "speculative" or "hypothetical" history, and edited a collection of essays, titled Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals (1997), exploring the subject.
I wouldn’t take that WSJ for anything more than an opinion piece and an effort to sell his next book where the essay came from, as mentioned in the footnotes of the article.