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Old 05-29-2021, 03:17 PM
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Anyone who actually looked at the data has known this since last year. Expect it to be ignored by the totalitarians and their blind followers.

The usual suspects will be along shortly to admonish us for not going along with the orthodoxy.
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Old 05-29-2021, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow View Post
Probably a combination of many things, but anecdotally speaking the one thing I've noticed across the board is that the general public seems more aware of personal hygiene with regard to hand washing, using hand sanitizer, etc. Also a lot of businesses figured how to minimize the need for commonly used touch point surfaces such as having to unnecessarily press buttons on credit card machines. Most of my payment interactions are now tap and go. Before the pandemic I don't remember seeing those as often.


Lots of lessons learned…the look-back will be interesting indeed.
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Old 05-29-2021, 05:25 PM
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I wonder what factors kept the flu rate so low.
It’s hard to know what the flu numbers are when you don’t test for it.
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Old 05-29-2021, 05:34 PM
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Can anyone provide proof that they have not tested for influenza?
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Old 05-29-2021, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires View Post
Can anyone provide proof that they have not tested for influenza?
How do you prove something didn’t happen? I thought you had to show proof it did. Also the fact that they have no positive or negative test results show they just didn’t test.

The three major hospitals in the area I work, who I turn patients over to everyday at work, none have tested for common flu strains this year. There isn’t any federal money in the flu but quite a bit in the covid game. I don’t blame the health care system for counting anyone who died with Covid as from Covid. Everyone wants a piece of that federal money and after all hospitals are just businesses also.
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Old 05-29-2021, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Firefighterpilo View Post
How do you prove something didn’t happen? I thought you had to show proof it did. Also the fact that they have no positive or negative test results show they just didn’t test.

The three major hospitals in the area I work, who I turn patients over to everyday at work, none have tested for common flu strains this year. There isn’t any federal money in the flu but quite a bit in the covid game. I don’t blame the health care system for counting anyone who died with Covid as from Covid. Everyone wants a piece of that federal money and after all hospitals are just businesses also.
To answer your first question...through intellectual integrity. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm Here is proof of influenza tests with abnormally low positive results.

The rest of your post is unverifiable hearsay. Also how and why would an EMT/ambulance driver be told the tests performed on and results of tests given to patients after being transferred? That all sounds incredibly unlikely. So again. Does anyone have any proof?
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Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires View Post
To answer your first question...through intellectual integrity. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm Here is proof of influenza tests with abnormally low positive results.

The rest of your post is unverifiable hearsay. Also how and why would an EMT/ambulance driver be told the tests performed on and results of tests given to patients after being transferred? That all sounds incredibly unlikely. So again. Does anyone have any proof?
Clearly you are not familiar with continuity of care between paramedics and ER staff. That is fine I don’t think an internet post will change your mind. I am literally the guy who shows up on the fire engine to treat and stabilize any unexpected tragedies from heart attacks to gunshots. We get monthly update numbers from the hospital medical directors on everything from strokes to flus to better our treatment modalities and adjust level of cares.

I would assume between gatherings being banned, more sanitary conditions and everyone more conscious of disease transmission that naturally flu numbers were lower, but to think it truly just disappeared last year due to mask wearing is a level of gullibly no argument will change.
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Old 05-29-2021, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Firefighterpilo View Post
I would assume between gatherings being banned, more sanitary conditions and everyone more conscious of disease transmission that naturally flu numbers were lower.

Lessons learned…time will tell.
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Old 05-29-2021, 06:55 PM
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I’m not saying why there are fewer cases. But the fact is that when you look at the data rather than claiming that information is being avoided or suppressed or remains clear that there was less positive flu cases last year. But the tests are absolutely being performed and to say otherwise or that it’s all a cover up is simply not true. Also, how often did people call 911 for the flu in previous years.

So if you are given briefings on illness trends and you do not trust them when it comes to the flu or covid why do you tolerate them at all and what do you feel first responders and transporters are gaining by being given what you claim is fraudulent information?
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Old 05-29-2021, 07:32 PM
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Straight from the article:


This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.






Yet, anti-maskers unite.
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