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Andy Dufresne 05-29-2021 11:39 AM
New study: Masks didn’t reduce Covid spread
 
From the University of Louisville

Here is the study:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1

Background Containment of the COVID-19 pandemic requires evidence-based strategies to reduce transmission. Because COVID-19 can spread via respired droplets, many states have mandated mask use in public settings. Randomized control trials have not clearly demonstrated mask efficacy against respiratory viruses, and observational studies conflict on whether mask use predicts lower infection rates. We hypothesized that statewide mask mandates and mask use are associated with lower COVID-19 case growth rates in the United States.
Conclusions: Mask mandates and use are not associated with slower state-level COVID-19 spread during COVID-19 growth surges. Containment requires future research and implementation of existing efficacious strategies.
Here are some news commentaries:

https://tennesseestar.com/2021/05/29/new-study-shows-masks-did-not-slow-covid-spread

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2021/05/26/new-study-refutes-fauci-efficacy-of-mask-mandates-n2589990

Firefighterpilo 05-29-2021 12:20 PM
Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne (Post 3242656)
I have a feeling over the next few months a lot of new studies will come out with the same conclusion. Wearing a mask in a surgery suite or paint booth doesn’t translate out to general population wearing them all day everywhere. To many other transmission points not to include the high rate of improper mask use and false security.

jetlaggy 05-29-2021 12:42 PM
I wonder what factors kept the flu rate so low.

Firefighterpilo 05-29-2021 12:45 PM
Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3242684)
I wonder what factors kept the flu rate so low.
In my experience at work it is because literally no one was testing for it. Any flu like symptoms were automatically categorized as Covid.

RI830 05-29-2021 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3242684)
I wonder what factors kept the flu rate so low.
The flu was out there just as normal.
Everything was covid. Heart attacks, strokes, car wrecks, flu, syphilis, cancer was all covid.

Andy Dufresne 05-29-2021 01:04 PM
Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3242684)
I wonder what factors kept the flu rate so low.
Lack of testing would be the biggest contributing factor, IMO.

SSlow 05-29-2021 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3242684)
I wonder what factors kept the flu rate so low.
Probably a combination of many things, but anecdotally speaking the one thing I've noticed across the board is that the general public seems more aware of personal hygiene with regard to hand washing, using hand sanitizer, etc. Also a lot of businesses figured how to minimize the need for commonly used touch point surfaces such as having to unnecessarily press buttons on credit card machines. Most of my payment interactions are now tap and go. Before the pandemic I don't remember seeing those as often.

Grumpyaviator 05-29-2021 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by RI830 (Post 3242687)
The flu was out there just as normal.
Everything was covid. Heart attacks, strokes, car wrecks, flu, syphilis, cancer was all covid.

This, literally every illness was linked to Covid, therefore all other numbers were lower. There was no distinction between “with Covid” and “from Covid”.

A few years ago a friend got the flu and as a result of his weakened condition died of a heart attack and the cause of death was listed as heart attack. If the same situation happened with Covid it would be counted as a Covid death.

Scoop 05-29-2021 02:41 PM
The non political dispassionate look back on the COVID issue a few years down the road should be quite revealing.

Scoop

Learflyer 05-29-2021 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Firefighterpilo (Post 3242674)
I have a feeling over the next few months a lot of new studies will come out with the same conclusion. Wearing a mask in a surgery suite or paint booth doesn’t translate out to general population wearing them all day everywhere. To many other transmission points not to include the high rate of improper mask use and false security.

Not sure there’s a “conclusion” here. It doesn’t appear to be peer reviewed.


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