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hercretired 07-14-2021 07:43 AM

Gordon Bethune: biz travel still weak
 
Just sharing this...

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2021/07/1...rline-ceo.html

AirBear 07-15-2021 09:45 AM

The higher end biz travel is going like crazy. NetJets just had to suspend fractional sales of light cabin jets (Phenom 300, Excel) because demand is outstripping the supply of jets and pilots. They said it was the highest demand they've ever seen and the company has been around for decades.

RI830 07-16-2021 07:52 PM

The airlines are desperate to gain back the “Concierge Key” type of business.
It is gone to the likes of FlexJet, netjetz and AirShare.

Don’t expect it back anytime soon. They are enjoying the flexibility and customer service.
Airlines will have to rebuild on the common plebes dollar bills.

hercretired 07-17-2021 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by RI830 (Post 3264631)
The airlines are desperate to gain back the “Concierge Key” type of business.
It is gone to the likes of FlexJet, netjetz and AirShare.

Don’t expect it back anytime soon. They are enjoying the flexibility and customer service.
Airlines will have to rebuild on the common plebes dollar bills.

Back to school September and onward TSA numbers will be interesting.

highfarfast 07-17-2021 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by RI830 (Post 3264631)
The airlines are desperate to gain back the “Concierge Key” type of business.
It is gone to the likes of FlexJet, netjetz and AirShare.

Don’t expect it back anytime soon. They are enjoying the flexibility and customer service.
Airlines will have to rebuild on the common plebes dollar bills.

Federal mask mandate will have to go away for those people to return imo. If you have the money to travel through an FBO onto a private plane where you never have a mask nazi scream at you because you're not putting your mask back on between each sip of your wine and each bite of your sandwich, why would you EVER subject yourself to that?

Red Forman 07-17-2021 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3265004)
Federal mask mandate will have to go away for those people to return imo. If you have the money to travel through an FBO onto a private plane where you never have a mask nazi scream at you because you're not putting your mask back on between each sip of your wine and each bite of your sandwich, why would you EVER subject yourself to that?

Nailed it!

fishforfun 07-17-2021 04:43 PM

We are stuck at 2 million until the admin allows outside countries to travel here. We are allowed to travel to other places with a negative test but others are not allowed in here. Until that happens we will be stuck in the 75% of 2019 numbers.

TransWorld 07-17-2021 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3265108)
We are stuck at 2 million until the admin allows outside countries to travel here. We are allowed to travel to other places with a negative test but others are not allowed in here. Until that happens we will be stuck in the 75% of 2019 numbers.

And that is pretty full for domestic.

fishforfun 07-18-2021 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3265182)
And that is pretty full for domestic.

Very full. Which is great, but I think it’s our max for a while.

GeeWizDriver 07-18-2021 08:37 AM

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...ng-anyway.html

I love the term “revenge travel” in this article.

The airports are a frappin zoo. Third airline five days into an 8 day tour. Good news for airline employees, absolute hell for those forced to ride hither and yon.


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