Excargodog

The vaccine hasn’t failed. It has dramatically decreased the lethality of COVID among the vaccinated - reducing it nearly as much as having had the illness itself and recovering from it, with far less mortality for high risk groups. That’s what influenza immunizations do. It provides a relatively safe (but not absolutely safe) way to transition from immunologically naive to immunologically experienced.

IT WAS NEVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN THAT. Those who told you it would either knowingly lied to you or were abysmally ignorant themselves.

While we are on the subject, the delta variant was NOT caused by people selfishly not getting immunized. It came from India where about a billion and a quarter people have been UNABLE to get immunized.

This is not EVER going to completely go away, we are going to have to live with it, like we do influenza, Epstein-Barr virus, Merkel Cell Polyoma Virus, the other four commonly circulating human coronaviruses, etc.

PS: You also aren’t going to live forever regardless of how many diseases you do or do not get.

Av8rPHX

I love how Sarah Nelson says the AFA is in full support of extending the mask mandate,meanwhile her members are being verbally and in some cases physically assaulted daily over the whole mask policing FAs are required to do.


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dualinput

Alabama’s health issues are a result of vaccine hesitancy.

The topic was Texas governor testing positive for Covid-19. No, that’s not a big deal and shouldn’t even be news since he’s vaccinated. Positivity rates and cases shouldn’t even be news anymore with current vaccination rates.

CX500T

Probably also more due to overall health as well. It was well documented early on that COVID was really bad for those who are obese.

Alabama is usually top 5 in nationwide obesity.

Source:
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/pre...s.html#overall

skywatch

for perspective, Alabama has a population of 4.9 million people and currently 1560 people in need of an ICU bed and 1562 ICU beds. So the state has two “net” beds available.

Note - the term “net” is used because, for instance, one hospital may have a net negative of ICU beds because it had to move ICU patients to another area of the hospital while a hospital in another part of the state may have more available ICU beds.

also note: As of Monday, 2,634 patients were being treated for COVID-19 in Alabama hospitals, including 40 pediatric patients, the association said.

That figure is near the peak of 3,084 COVID-19 hospitalizations during January’s coronavirus surge. according to state Department of Public Health data.

dualinput

Vaccinated passengers should have the option of not wearing masks. I understand that the vaccinated can still spread it but at this point why are we responsible for protection of those choosing to remain unvaccinated. They are making a choice for whatever reason and that’s ok in my book. They also by and large don’t want others protecting them anyway.

I say voluntarily disclose your vaccination status and have the option of not wearing the mask on planes. Choose not to disclose or choose to be unvaxed then mask up.

I honestly wish it were optional for everyone but this seems like a good compromise.

LNL76

Speaking of AFA, I've read they won't help dues-paying members navigate medical exemptions with the airlines. Niiiice.

Red Forman

Guess the airlines won’t be getting any of my money for yet another 6 months.

SSlow

This is a very, very huge part of the equation, probably even more than vaccine hesitancy if we're being honest. Nobody in the spotlight is allowed to call for making healthy lifestyle adjustments because it can be perceived as fat shaming, and that would sound mean and harsh. And we just can't have that apparently.

LNL76

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God forbid we pick on drunks or drug addicts, too.