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Old 08-22-2021, 11:10 PM
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I saw a clip of Hannity telling people to get vaccines, I don't listen to him but as far as I know he has been telling people to get the vaccine. The vast majority of conservative radio hosts (Shapiro, Rubin) have been telling people to get the vaccine the whole time. So have the majority of Republican politicians. Let's not forget who the original vaccine doubters were in this debacle (Schummer, Cuomo, K. Harris). If you want to blame a group of people and wish bad on them for being fools then you are looking in the wrong direction.
Yeah, he's been on both sides. I saw a youtube video with him saying take the vaccine and then trashing it the next day but....this thread isn't about Sean Hannity.. try reading the article.
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Old 08-23-2021, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku View Post
I saw a clip of Hannity telling people to get vaccines, I don't listen to him but as far as I know he has been telling people to get the vaccine. The vast majority of conservative radio hosts (Shapiro, Rubin) have been telling people to get the vaccine the whole time. So have the majority of Republican politicians. Let's not forget who the original vaccine doubters were in this debacle (Schummer, Cuomo, K. Harris). If you want to blame a group of people and wish bad on them for being fools then you are looking in the wrong direction.
In the case of Hannity, he says take Covid seriously and that everyone should do their own research on vaccine while pumping up therapeutics like ivermectin and HCQ. Appears that some who are doing their own research decided to make a trip to the feed store for medical purposes.
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Old 08-23-2021, 04:01 AM
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Since your so smart to not even read the article, why don't you comment on Ivermectin poisoning people in Mississippi ...instead of deflecting about Gavin Newsom.
I’ll point out that the article did not say that Ivermectin was poisoning people in Mississippi…it said people were calling poison control, and that one person may have taken too much (dosing problem). Maybe it winds up being the same thing, maybe not. But accuracy matters.
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:28 AM
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Since your so smart to not even read the article, why don't you comment on Ivermectin poisoning people in Mississippi ...instead of deflecting about Gavin Newsom.
Nope! That question was posed to you over a month ago and you're still not answering.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:13 AM
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I’ll point out that the article did not say that Ivermectin was poisoning people in Mississippi…it said people were calling poison control, and that one person may have taken too much (dosing problem). Maybe it winds up being the same thing, maybe not. But accuracy matters.
Ok fair enough. But you're kinda ignoring the elephant in the room. It's not just a dosing problem. It's people taking a drug for COVID that is only approved for specific conditions resulting from parasites. I wonder where they're getting this great medical advice from.
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Ok fair enough. But you're kinda ignoring the elephant in the room. It's not just a dosing problem. It's people taking a drug for COVID that is only approved for specific conditions resulting from parasites. I wonder where they're getting this great medical advice from.
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Ok fair enough. But you're kinda ignoring the elephant in the room. It's not just a dosing problem. It's people taking a drug for COVID that is only approved for specific conditions resulting from parasites. I wonder where they're getting this great medical advice from.
Maybe they are looking at how commonly this drug is being prescribed in other parts of the world? Maybe they are getting it from this study published in the American Journal of Therapeutics?

https://journals.lww.com/americanthe...ment_of.7.aspx

"Meta-analysis of 15 trials, assessing 2438 participants, found that ivermectin reduced the risk of death by an average of 62% (95% CI 27%–81%) compared with no ivermectin treatment [average RR (aRR) 0.38, 95% CI 0.19 to 0.73; I2 = 49%]; risk of death 2.3% versus 7.8% among hospitalized patients in this analysis, respectively (SoF Table 2 and Figure 3). "

Oh, but unfortunately, there is no money to be made from prescribing this drug, so I doubt Merck or anyone else in the western world is interested in funding any studies beyond those referenced here.
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Originally Posted by Tfork View Post
I wonder where they're getting this great medical advice from.
Considering there are doctors prescribing this, I would assume some medical advice is coming from a medical professionals.
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Maybe they are looking at how commonly this drug is being prescribed in other parts of the world? Maybe they are getting it from this study published in the American Journal of Therapeutics?

https://journals.lww.com/americanthe...ment_of.7.aspx

"Meta-analysis of 15 trials, assessing 2438 participants, found that ivermectin reduced the risk of death by an average of 62% (95% CI 27%–81%) compared with no ivermectin treatment [average RR (aRR) 0.38, 95% CI 0.19 to 0.73; I2 = 49%]; risk of death 2.3% versus 7.8% among hospitalized patients in this analysis, respectively (SoF Table 2 and Figure 3). "

Oh, but unfortunately, there is no money to be made from prescribing this drug, so I doubt Merck or anyone else in the western world is interested in funding any studies beyond those referenced here.
And maybe, just maybe Ivermectin HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED for COVID by WHO or the FDA. Did you read the whole article to posted or just the snippet you posted? From your article:



"There are a number of limitations with this review. Several of the studies contributing data did not provide full descriptions of methods, so assessing risk of bias was challenging. Where descriptions of study methods were sparse or unclear, we attempted to contact authors to clarify methods, but lack of information led us to downgrade findings in several instances. Overall interpretation of findings was hampered due to variability in the participants recruited, treatment regimen, and the care offered to those in control groups. We have tried to take this variation into account through subgroup and sensitivity analyses. Nevertheless, dosing and treatment regimens and the use of ivermectin with other components of “standard care” require further research."


This would explain why the FDA hasn't approved Ivermectin for use against COVID. It's why doctors aren't prescribing it and people in Mississippi have to get it from animal pharmacies.
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This would explain why the FDA hasn't approved Ivermectin for use against COVID. It's why doctors aren't prescribing it and people in Mississippi have to get it from animal pharmacies.
The FDA just approved one of the three available vaccines. Using your logic, no one should get the Moderna or J&J because they haven’t been approved by the FDA.
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