Time to stop politicizing Ivermectin
09-17-2021, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
It’s so heartwarming to see this professional exchange of ideas and problem solving that is taking place here. It’s almost like watching opposing troops of chimps on National Geographic.
09-17-2021, 04:29 AM
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Meanwhile at 7:20am central time Sanjay Gupta admitted on tv that “natural immunity is far superior to the vaccines” but suggest that folk don’t go out to intentionally catch the virus.
This is huge because mainstream media has been dodging this subject including Faucci who said he’d have to look at the data.
Gupta also analyzed Israel’s numbers and booster program. He noted the continuing rise in cases even with the booster and said we need to take a pause basically.
Dude is tired of the bull and moving goal post. He’s finding his soul
This is huge because mainstream media has been dodging this subject including Faucci who said he’d have to look at the data.
Gupta also analyzed Israel’s numbers and booster program. He noted the continuing rise in cases even with the booster and said we need to take a pause basically.
Dude is tired of the bull and moving goal post. He’s finding his soul
09-17-2021, 04:42 AM
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I'm late to the party here, but for you pilots calling for DATA, this is a comprehensive list of 116 studies detailing use of Ivermectin to treat COVID.
https://c19ivermectin.com
Ivermectin is being used all over the world to treat COVID right now including the US. For example Mexico is using a test and treat program, where if you test positive, you are sent home with a COVID kit which includes Ivermectin.
https://mexicobusiness.news/health/n...ed-mexico-city
https://trialsitenews.com/ivermectin...axcala-mexico/
If you are hospitalized with COVID in my area, their treatment protocol is monoclonal antibodies, Ivermectin and steroids.
Calling it a horse dewormer is disingenuous at best, and really illustrates the maligned incentives at play.
Sorry if this has already been posted.
https://c19ivermectin.com
Ivermectin is being used all over the world to treat COVID right now including the US. For example Mexico is using a test and treat program, where if you test positive, you are sent home with a COVID kit which includes Ivermectin.
https://mexicobusiness.news/health/n...ed-mexico-city
https://trialsitenews.com/ivermectin...axcala-mexico/
If you are hospitalized with COVID in my area, their treatment protocol is monoclonal antibodies, Ivermectin and steroids.
Calling it a horse dewormer is disingenuous at best, and really illustrates the maligned incentives at play.
Sorry if this has already been posted.
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09-17-2021, 05:40 AM
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09-17-2021, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
This helps the CBTs go by faster while sitting a reserve assignment
09-17-2021, 06:01 AM
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What is the fascination with ivermectin? What IS the point of all the back and forth here?
It's really quite simple right? For those of us who are actually UAL employees it's either get vaccinated or resign/retire/LOA - regardless of whether ivermectin is effective at treating COVID19.
Another basic point. Ivermectin has many approved uses throughout the world - even in the US. Some are for animal treatment and some are for humans. This isn't uncommon among basic drug classes. In the US (FDA controls the process) ivermectin has not been approved for use in treating COVID19. This doesn't mean it's not effective, it just means that the FDA hasn't determined its safety & efficacy at the required dosage. Is the FDA currently studying this?
None of us have the ability to approve ivermectin for use to treat COVID19 so please give it a rest.
It's really quite simple right? For those of us who are actually UAL employees it's either get vaccinated or resign/retire/LOA - regardless of whether ivermectin is effective at treating COVID19.
Another basic point. Ivermectin has many approved uses throughout the world - even in the US. Some are for animal treatment and some are for humans. This isn't uncommon among basic drug classes. In the US (FDA controls the process) ivermectin has not been approved for use in treating COVID19. This doesn't mean it's not effective, it just means that the FDA hasn't determined its safety & efficacy at the required dosage. Is the FDA currently studying this?
None of us have the ability to approve ivermectin for use to treat COVID19 so please give it a rest.
09-17-2021, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Newsflash: The vaccine doesn’t stop you from getting the virus, nor does it stop someone from spreading it. Also, a person that has had covid has a better chance of not being a carrier or a spreader. The more you know, comrade.
09-17-2021, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
Little does he know, he’ll be taking Ivermectin by the end of this year or early next year. It’ll just be called something else. Pfizer’s vaccine works so well that they’re currently testing their own version of a conspiracy theory to supplement it. Merck, who makes Ivermectin, is currently testing a new covid oral drug as well. My guess is that it’ll pretty much be identical to Ivermectin. They’ll just call it something else and charge 20x more for it.
Even the FDA has said Ivermectin is safe when used as directed. They’ve just said they “need more evidence for use in covid.” So rather than test a completely safe drug that’s already been approved for other uses and has been used millions of times around the world specifically for Covid including in the U.S….. They would rather wait and test a completely new drug. Yea, clearly money is not at play here. Nope. Even though the new drug will most likely be identical to Ivermectin.
All the triple maskers and people cheering that others get fired will be taking Pfizermectin before they know it.
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...al-2021-09-01/
No word yet on if it’ll also be safe to use in livestock. My guess is yes.
Pfizermectin: The conspiracy theory thats FDA approved. Saddle up partner.
Even the FDA has said Ivermectin is safe when used as directed. They’ve just said they “need more evidence for use in covid.” So rather than test a completely safe drug that’s already been approved for other uses and has been used millions of times around the world specifically for Covid including in the U.S….. They would rather wait and test a completely new drug. Yea, clearly money is not at play here. Nope. Even though the new drug will most likely be identical to Ivermectin.
All the triple maskers and people cheering that others get fired will be taking Pfizermectin before they know it.
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...al-2021-09-01/
No word yet on if it’ll also be safe to use in livestock. My guess is yes.
Pfizermectin: The conspiracy theory thats FDA approved. Saddle up partner.
09-17-2021, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
All correct however it dramatically reduces the chances you will get the virus or spread it to others. If you do catch covid as a vaccinated person it dramatically reduces the possibility of hospitalization.
Israel, Gibraltar, Scotland, Finland, Norway, Iceland, USA, France, UK, UAE, Japan, etc all saw waves of infections increase as the jabs increased.
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021...-vaccinations/
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...aps-and-cases/
Funny the countries with the lowest rates don't jab and tend to use HCQ and IVM. Weird isn't it?
Funny how the benchmark for open reporting on vaccine side effects was the darling of the world - until it wasn't.
It's good to see Dr Gupta starting to use his mind. He actually is a pretty decent physician. He's getting redpilled by the absurdity and foolishness such as we read here on this United thread and further propagated by individuals like sailing and others. You can't deny 100s of years of medical knowledge that natural immunity is effective. Dr Gupta understands this. Many of you don't. But yet we are told by you all to "trust the science" and shut up and take the poison. Since when did the quest for knowledge become dogma?
I've stated in the DAL forums already, not getting any jab for this. I do need the job, but my long term health is worth more to me. If I end up being fired, so be it. I'll find another job. At least I won't step on the land mine years on like most of you will. Since no one knows what these experimental procedures are going to do to humans long term.
I have natural immunity, confirmed thru tests now going on 8 months from my infection with the vid. Dr. Gupta recognizes this. For me the vid was very minor event. Then again I'm not obese, have no underlying conditions and am not >70 years old.
Sailing, when do hit 65 again?
09-17-2021, 07:48 AM
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Myocarditis study in pfizer and moderna shows incidence is 1 in 1,000. Median age 33.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....13.21262182v1
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...182v1.full.pdf
There were 15,997 doses of Moderna vaccine, and 16,382 doses of Pfizer vaccine administered over the
study period, for a total of 32,379 doses. Note that these numbers represent a mixture of first and
second doses. Therefore, if our cohort captured all cases in the Ottawa area, then the incidence of
myocarditis would be 0.1% of all vaccine doses (32 cases/32,379 doses x 100), or 10 cases of myocarditis
for every 10,000 doses of vaccine.
"There was no difference in 5-year survival rate between the myocarditis and idiopathic dilated cardiomyopathy groups (56% vs. 54%, respectively). "
5 year survival rate of about 50%. Good luck!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....13.21262182v1
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...182v1.full.pdf
There were 15,997 doses of Moderna vaccine, and 16,382 doses of Pfizer vaccine administered over the
study period, for a total of 32,379 doses. Note that these numbers represent a mixture of first and
second doses. Therefore, if our cohort captured all cases in the Ottawa area, then the incidence of
myocarditis would be 0.1% of all vaccine doses (32 cases/32,379 doses x 100), or 10 cases of myocarditis
for every 10,000 doses of vaccine.
"There was no difference in 5-year survival rate between the myocarditis and idiopathic dilated cardiomyopathy groups (56% vs. 54%, respectively). "
5 year survival rate of about 50%. Good luck!
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