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Sunvox 09-07-2021 05:09 PM

Missed the link earlier so here it is:

A COVID-19 prophylaxis?

GucciBoy 09-07-2021 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3291757)
You obviously haven't done much research into the West African Ebola outbreaks then. We rely heavily on their information at the moment.

Not to mention the Central American surveillance of zika and dengue. The south american surveillance of the same.

Once again, cherry picking.

Ivermectin is a very good treatment. Both pre and during. So is monoclonal antibody. Billions of people are treated with Ivermectin and HCQ protocols that have been developed when politics and profit are not entered into the equation. Healing is the common denominator here.


What is a fact though, is the utter failure of the mRNA jabs. But that, for whatever reasons, can't be discussed.


Monoclonal antibodies are not FDA approved. They are being used under an EUA. There are no studies on the long-term effects of monoclonal antibodies being introduced into the human body. It is quite irresponsible to tout them as a treatment for COVID when we don’t have any idea what they will do to the body long-term.


See how that sounds? That’s you talking about the vaccine.

AZFlyer 09-07-2021 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by GucciBoy (Post 3291770)
Monoclonal antibodies are not FDA approved. They are being used under an EUA. There are no studies on the long-term effects of monoclonal antibodies being introduced into the human body. It is quite irresponsible to tout them as a treatment for COVID when we don’t have any idea what they will do to the body long-term.


See how that sounds? That’s you talking about the vaccine.

No one is trying to mandate monoclonal antibodies in order to keep your job or go about ordinary daily activities.

ThumbsUp 09-07-2021 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3291757)
You obviously haven't done much research into the West African Ebola outbreaks then. We rely heavily on their information at the moment.

Not to mention the Central American surveillance of zika and dengue. The south american surveillance of the same.

Once again, cherry picking.

Ivermectin is a very good treatment. Both pre and during. So is monoclonal antibody. Billions of people are treated with Ivermectin and HCQ protocols that have been developed when politics and profit are not entered into the equation. Healing is the common denominator here.


What is a fact though, is the utter failure of the mRNA jabs. But that, for whatever reasons, can't be discussed.

Next time you spend a year in Chad or Niger, please let me know how reliable you think their governments’ abilities are to manage and report health statistics.

mRNA vaccines seem to be doing pretty well in Israel and basically everywhere else, if you’re concerned about hospitalization, deaths and other such nonsense. Personally, I’d take the 92.8% efficacy against those and 14x lower hospitalization rate.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/po...are-vaccinated

TiredSoul 09-08-2021 09:10 AM

m-RNA is FAA approved.
Will you risk your medical disclosing off label medication use?
Or intend to lie on your next 8500-8?

Red Forman 09-08-2021 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 3291974)
m-RNA is FAA approved.
Will you risk your medical disclosing off label medication use?
Or intend to lie on your next 8500-8?

If a doctor prescribes me a medication, of course I will disclose it.

ThumbsUp 09-08-2021 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 3291992)
If a doctor prescribes me a medication, of course I will disclose it.

Maybe talk to your AME first. AMAS doesn’t have it approved for that purpose. When HCQ was all of the rage for a short time, the FAA issued a grounding memorandum for COVID-purposed use, although it was approved for its intended use after a ground trial.

GeeWizDriver 09-08-2021 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 3291974)
m-RNA is FAA approved.
Will you risk your medical disclosing off label medication use?
Or intend to lie on your next 8500-8?

The way I read the 8500, you only have to disclose the medications you are TAKING while flying. If you grounded yourself while sick, took ANY medication whether OTC or prescription while sick, recovered, discontinued any meds, and then returned to flying, I see no reason why you would have to report it months later.

You only have to retroactively report medical visits. The AME is empowered to inquire as to the nature. I don't retroactively report medications used briefly to treat an acute condition between medicals. Don't have to.

ThumbsUp 09-08-2021 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 3292089)
The way I read the 8500, you only have to disclose the medications you are TAKING while flying. If you grounded yourself while sick, took ANY medication whether OTC or prescription while sick, recovered, discontinued any meds, and then returned to flying, I see no reason why you would have to report it months later.

You only have to retroactively report medical visits. The AME is empowered to inquire as to the nature. I don't retroactively report medications used briefly to treat an acute condition between medicals. Don't have to.

Some people are using it a prophylaxis, though, although I think that’s mainly using the Mr. Ed variety here is the US.

GeeWizDriver 09-08-2021 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3292171)
Some people are using it a prophylaxis, though, although I think that’s mainly using the Mr. Ed variety here is the US.

If one were taking it as a prophylactic, it would be required to be reported. However, the majority of usage that is showing the most promise is the HUMAN dosage of .4-.6 mg per kg of body weight immediately upon positive test or onset of symptoms for five days or until symptoms abate, whichever occurs first.

A close friend and his wife just had moderate Covid. Not vaxxed. They followed the FLCCC protocol that includes the controversial Nobel-winning medication and they both beat it within a week. Anecdotal to be sure but the positive outcomes seem to outweigh the bad.


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