Time to stop politicizing Ivermectin
#41
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I’ve seen you peddle this same snake oil on multiple forums but you never include said “data”. Is this “data” what the CIA broadcasts to your fillings or is what the man is your head says when you’re not wearing your tinfoil hat? Go back to your enlightened posts on horse dewormer and all the “data” that only you have seen. I’m sure it’s all a coverup and conspiracy thank god there’s internet sleuths like you to let us all know what’s really going on. 🤫🙄
Calling it horse dewormer shows how little you pay attention. The WHO, CDC, NIH, and FDA all refer to this drug as HUMAN use. There are two versions. Even though none of these organizations can provide any actual data… they all know it can be used in humans. You don’t even listen to your own experts.
So I ask again, if United mandated Ivermectin, would you set a religious and human rights example by happily complying?
#43
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Ive provided plenty of data. From doctors, health organizations, hospitals, countries, it’s all there. You on the other hand, can’t provide any data. You can only provide opinions with no data.
Calling it horse dewormer shows how little you pay attention. The WHO, CDC, NIH, and FDA all refer to this drug as HUMAN use. There are two versions. Even though none of these organizations can provide any actual data… they all know it can be used in humans. You don’t even listen to your own experts.
So I ask again, if United mandated Ivermectin, would you set a religious and human rights example by happily complying?
Calling it horse dewormer shows how little you pay attention. The WHO, CDC, NIH, and FDA all refer to this drug as HUMAN use. There are two versions. Even though none of these organizations can provide any actual data… they all know it can be used in humans. You don’t even listen to your own experts.
So I ask again, if United mandated Ivermectin, would you set a religious and human rights example by happily complying?
#44
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Your cherry-picked nonsense does not mean a thing. All it proves is that somewhere along the way you learned how to use Google. So serious question… When Ivermectin goes down the same debunked path as previous “miracle cures” will you be man enough to come back on here and say that you were completely full of BS or will you crawl back to your conspiracy theory basement? I know which way I’d guess but I’m not as smart as you.
I have not cherry picked any data. I have used ALL the data provided. Didn’t select anything. You on the other hand, can’t cherry pick anything because there is no data that exists anywhere in the world that shows ivermectin doesn’t work. All you have is statements and opinions.
Meanwhile, as of a week ago, Israel now has the highest covid cases per capita in the ENTIRE WORLD. Despite being the most vaccinated country in the world behind Iceland. Despite being one of the only countries in the world using boosters. Despite being the first country in the world calling for a 4th shot. Israel has the WORST covid numbers of all. Higher than at anytime pre-vaccine.
https://themedialine.org/life-lines/...ns-per-capita/
#45
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Yes, I’ll be man enough to admit that because I actually look at data.
I have not cherry picked any data. I have used ALL the data provided. Didn’t select anything. You on the other hand, can’t cherry pick anything because there is no data that exists anywhere in the world that shows ivermectin doesn’t work. All you have is statements and opinions.
Meanwhile, as of a week ago, Israel now has the highest covid cases per capita in the ENTIRE WORLD. Despite being the most vaccinated country in the world behind Iceland. Despite being one of the only countries in the world using boosters. Despite being the first country in the world calling for a 4th shot. Israel has the WORST covid numbers of all. Higher than at anytime pre-vaccine.
https://themedialine.org/life-lines/...ns-per-capita/
I have not cherry picked any data. I have used ALL the data provided. Didn’t select anything. You on the other hand, can’t cherry pick anything because there is no data that exists anywhere in the world that shows ivermectin doesn’t work. All you have is statements and opinions.
Meanwhile, as of a week ago, Israel now has the highest covid cases per capita in the ENTIRE WORLD. Despite being the most vaccinated country in the world behind Iceland. Despite being one of the only countries in the world using boosters. Despite being the first country in the world calling for a 4th shot. Israel has the WORST covid numbers of all. Higher than at anytime pre-vaccine.
https://themedialine.org/life-lines/...ns-per-capita/
#46
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Okay, okay, okay… you used all the DATA, you gotta be kidding me. That must have taken a loooong time. You either are in desperate need of a hobby, love interest or distraction. Standing by for your double blind peer reviewed study that shows it works not some other dudes sixth sense about it. Please give me another one of your predictably boring and self-aggrandizing replies. I can’t wait. Please get a hobby you can’t be reading Ivermectin studies all day I’m worried about your mental well-being.
I can venture a guess and say that the countries that locked down the hardest in the beginning will have the absolute worst time with these variants. Meanwhile in Sweden...
Coming soon, the Australia and NZ variant.
#47
Yes, I’ll be man enough to admit that because I actually look at data.
I have not cherry picked any data. I have used ALL the data provided. Didn’t select anything. You on the other hand, can’t cherry pick anything because there is no data that exists anywhere in the world that shows ivermectin doesn’t work. All you have is statements and opinions.
Meanwhile, as of a week ago, Israel now has the highest covid cases per capita in the ENTIRE WORLD. Despite being the most vaccinated country in the world behind Iceland. Despite being one of the only countries in the world using boosters. Despite being the first country in the world calling for a 4th shot. Israel has the WORST covid numbers of all. Higher than at anytime pre-vaccine.
https://themedialine.org/life-lines/...ns-per-capita/
I have not cherry picked any data. I have used ALL the data provided. Didn’t select anything. You on the other hand, can’t cherry pick anything because there is no data that exists anywhere in the world that shows ivermectin doesn’t work. All you have is statements and opinions.
Meanwhile, as of a week ago, Israel now has the highest covid cases per capita in the ENTIRE WORLD. Despite being the most vaccinated country in the world behind Iceland. Despite being one of the only countries in the world using boosters. Despite being the first country in the world calling for a 4th shot. Israel has the WORST covid numbers of all. Higher than at anytime pre-vaccine.
https://themedialine.org/life-lines/...ns-per-capita/
do you happen to know the deaths per million in Israel before the vaccine roll out? That would be the difference in my opinion. If it is statistically fewer deaths with vaccine then maybe its helping and we all just need to let this thing run its course and let people decide their fate.
if I cant protect you from covid but you can protect yourself by getting a shot then I'd say it's pretty much individual choice at this point. The we need to protect the ones who cant get it etc is now moot. I can no longer save your mima or toddler. Seems like personal responsibility needs to make a comeback.
#48
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The "horse de-wormer" narrative has been thrown at ANYONE taking ANY FORM of the medication in order to delegitimize any course of treatment that avoids the cult of the vaccine.
#49
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Okay, okay, okay… you used all the DATA, you gotta be kidding me. That must have taken a loooong time. You either are in desperate need of a hobby, love interest or distraction. Standing by for your double blind peer reviewed study that shows it works not some other dudes sixth sense about it. Please give me another one of your predictably boring and self-aggrandizing replies. I can’t wait. Please get a hobby you can’t be reading Ivermectin studies all day I’m worried about your mental well-being.
https://www.cureus.com/articles/6480...thcare-workers
Not peer reviewed (YET… as stated on report), but posted on a medical site funded by Mark Zuckerburg. Are you saying Zuckerburg would have to have his own fact checkers claim he’s putting out false information? Here’s a highlight… covid infections tested negative 6 days after diagnosis an average of 2.6 times more when using Ivermectin.
It is from Israel, but so far Israel has yet to start using Ivermectin in actual patients. My guess is that they will use it shortly given the fact that they’re the largest hot spot on earth now.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....31.21258081v1
Theres are just 2 of many with new studies coming out all the time. Where are your studies that show Ivermectin doesn’t work that actually show any kind of data and not just opinions or statements? They don’t exist. If they did, the media would be putting it on blast.
#50
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interesting article. Seems like the factors may be more testing so they're finding more positives, people going back to school/work/religious events, and total reliance on the vaccine that isn't preventing contraction or spreading.
do you happen to know the deaths per million in Israel before the vaccine roll out? That would be the difference in my opinion. If it is statistically fewer deaths with vaccine then maybe its helping and we all just need to let this thing run its course and let people decide their fate.
if I cant protect you from covid but you can protect yourself by getting a shot then I'd say it's pretty much individual choice at this point. The we need to protect the ones who cant get it etc is now moot. I can no longer save your mima or toddler. Seems like personal responsibility needs to make a comeback.
do you happen to know the deaths per million in Israel before the vaccine roll out? That would be the difference in my opinion. If it is statistically fewer deaths with vaccine then maybe its helping and we all just need to let this thing run its course and let people decide their fate.
if I cant protect you from covid but you can protect yourself by getting a shot then I'd say it's pretty much individual choice at this point. The we need to protect the ones who cant get it etc is now moot. I can no longer save your mima or toddler. Seems like personal responsibility needs to make a comeback.
My fiancé is from Israel and has currently been there the last 2 months. She has not been tested other than when initially arriving and she claims they don’t test anymore or less than the U.S. If the vaccines worked as advertised it shouldn’t matter if kids were going to school or synagogues were opening up. You could literally be peeing on each other and the numbers shouldn’t be anywhere close to what they are if the vaccines worked as initially promised.
The vaccines are inferior. For 60% of people (per Israel and the Mayo Clinic) the vaccines do nothing. Meanwhile, 99.9% of covid infections that have used Ivermectin at the first sign of symptoms have not had ANY serious cases.
Last edited by Thedude86; 09-09-2021 at 11:31 AM.
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