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Old 09-09-2021, 11:22 AM
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Here is Hawaii, one of the highest vaxed states, an island state, mask mandate for almost 500 days, lockdowns, tourism restrictions.
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Washington
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Oregon
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Vermont
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Here is Australia.
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Vaccination in the midst of viral spread is causing viral escape and will continue to do so. If the variants are being caused by vaccines, and the recently vaccinated are potentially super spreaders, it just proves even more that United’s leaders are nazis.
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Scotland
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The vaccine does not prevent transmission, isn’t preventing infection, is showing rapidly waning effectiveness at preventing hospitalizations and severe covid after 4 months requiring boosters and now pills to help fight off ADE in those vaccinated. Yet United is mandating them… why? It is unethical, immoral, goes against the Nuremberg code, is a horrifying precedent, religious rights are being violated, and it is discriminatory. Everyone should be fighting this.
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jacinth View Post
The vaccine does not prevent transmission, isn’t preventing infection, is showing rapidly waning effectiveness at preventing hospitalizations and severe covid after 4 months requiring boosters and now pills to help fight off ADE in those vaccinated. Yet United is mandating them… why? It is unethical, immoral, goes against the Nuremberg code, is a horrifying precedent, religious rights are being violated, and it is discriminatory. Everyone should be fighting this.
Doesn’t matter. Doesn’t matter that every single highly vaccinated country on earth is seeing their worst covid numbers ever. Just stop being inconsiderate and do as your told. The sooner we can get to Israel’s vaccination rate and start mandating boosters… the sooner we too can be the largest covid hotspot on the face of the planet. Our covid numbers are already heading that way as more people become vaccinated. Momentum is in our favor. Come on team. We can do it. Let’s be the best.
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:33 AM
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The vaccines are inferior. For 60% of people (per Israel and the Mayo Clinic) the vaccines do nothing. Meanwhile, 99.9% of covid infections that has used Ivermectin at the first sign of symptoms have not had ANY serious cases.
That’s not correct. What the Mayo Clinic preprint said was that the Pfizer vaccine did not prevent symptomatic infection in 58% of cases, while Moderna did not prevent symptomatic infection in 24% in July. Both in this study and in Israel, they have been extremely effective in preventing hospitalization and death. Symptomatic infection, hospitalizations and deaths are all different metrics.
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp View Post
That’s not correct. What the Mayo Clinic preprint said was that the Pfizer vaccine did not prevent symptomatic infection in 58% of cases, while Moderna did not prevent symptomatic infection in 24% in July. Both in this study and in Israel, they have been extremely effective in prevent hospitalization and death. Symptomatic infection, hospitalizations and deaths are all different metrics.
Maybe I misinterpreted it. Regardless, those numbers are still inferior to Ivermectin as proven by every study and data collection that is willing to provide 100% of their findings. Not hide any data like the FDA and NIH.

Death is still occurring in vaccinated individuals at a higher rate than what was initially promised. Ivermectin has a virtually 100% success at not just preventing death but preventing serious cases when used early on when first diagnosed.
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver View Post
No, the vast majority of people taking this medication are taking the HUMAN pharmaceutical, in an appropriate dosage for HUMANS, based on mounting evidence that early use improves Covid outcomes in HUMANS. There are some knuckleheads so desperate to get their hands on the medication that they seek it out in a form designed for livestock. Not smart. Especially when the correct form of the medication is fairly accessible. But then again, there are also people who don't believe in the obvious cognitive decline of certain prominent individuals.

The "horse de-wormer" narrative has been thrown at ANYONE taking ANY FORM of the medication in order to delegitimize any course of treatment that avoids the cult of the vaccine.
You may think that because of the news you are watching or these forums, but most people realize that there is a difference. The fact remains, though, that people are taking medicines meant for livestock doses because they are unable to get them through a physician.
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver View Post
No, the vast majority of people taking this medication are taking the HUMAN pharmaceutical, in an appropriate dosage for HUMANS, based on mounting evidence that early use improves Covid outcomes in HUMANS. There are some knuckleheads so desperate to get their hands on the medication that they seek it out in a form designed for livestock. Not smart. Especially when the correct form of the medication is fairly accessible. But then again, there are also people who don't believe in the obvious cognitive decline of certain prominent individuals.

The "horse de-wormer" narrative has been thrown at ANYONE taking ANY FORM of the medication in order to delegitimize any course of treatment that avoids the cult of the vaccine.
"Mounting Evidence"

The detractors say "neigh" but you guys saddle up with your Don Quixote like veracity that should have been sent to pasture.
So bridle your anger, and try to remain stable.
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Originally Posted by Thedude86 View Post
Maybe I misinterpreted it. Regardless, those numbers are still inferior to Ivermectin as proven by every study and data collection that is willing to provide 100% of their findings. Not hide any data like the FDA and NIH.

Death is still occurring in vaccinated individuals at a higher rate than what was initially promised. Ivermectin has a virtually 100% success at not just preventing death but preventing serious cases when used early on when first diagnosed.
Virtually 100%. YGBFKM! Was this in the India study that was neither blind nor unbiased or was this in the unreviewed Zuckerberg study? It’s so hard to keep track when you see only what you want to see. I think at this point it is imperative that you box up all your research and send it off to all the best research clinics and universities in the country to let them know what you’ve stumbled upon. Oh wait I forgot they’re all part of the grand conspiracy designed to keep Ivermectin off the streets even though it is humanity’s only hope. Honestly do you hear how crazy that sounds?!?! At least you’re always good for a laugh! Keep that tinfoil hat on tight!
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Originally Posted by Thedude86 View Post
Maybe I misinterpreted it. Regardless, those numbers are still inferior to Ivermectin as proven by every study and data collection that is willing to provide 100% of their findings. Not hide any data like the FDA and NIH.

Death is still occurring in vaccinated individuals at a higher rate than what was initially promised. Ivermectin has a virtually 100% success at not just preventing death but preventing serious cases when used early on when first diagnosed.
You misinterpreted data by casually glancing over it after a google search? I don’t believe it! I’ll go out on a limb and say your PhD dissertation went much better. What was it in again, statistics or microbiology?
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Originally Posted by GolferNJ View Post
You misinterpreted data by casually glancing over it after a google search? I don’t believe it! I’ll go out on a limb and say your PhD dissertation went much better. What was it in again, statistics or microbiology?
Its not a Google search. I’ll admit I didn’t break down the specifics but The Mayo Clinic says it’s only 42% effective. Are you more educated on the vaccines than they are?

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Virtually 100%. YGBFKM! Was this in the India study that was neither blind nor unbiased or was this in the unreviewed Zuckerberg study? It’s so hard to keep track when you see only what you want to see. I think at this point it is imperative that you box up all your research and send it off to all the best research clinics and universities in the country to let them know what you’ve stumbled upon. Oh wait I forgot they’re all part of the grand conspiracy designed to keep Ivermectin off the streets even though it is humanity’s only hope. Honestly do you hear how crazy that sounds?!?! At least you’re always good for a laugh! Keep that tinfoil hat on tight!
So you’re saying Mark Zuckerburg would fact check his own funded research? You’re saying he’s putting out false information? There are numerous studies and data points from health officials around the world. Including the head of the Tokyo Medical Association. Are you saying he needs to step down so Japan can listen to your medical expertise instead.

btw, still waiting for you to find just ONE study that actually provides data instead of opinions that show Ivermectin is ineffective. Just one. That’s all im
asking for. If you’re so certain it’s making people drop like flies it should be pretty easy for you to find.

Also, while you’re searching for that data that doesn’t exist, can you also find just ONE doctor anywhere that’s used Ivermectin that advises against it? Again, just one. That’s all I’m asking for. It was prescribed 88,000 times last week in HUMANS just in the U.S. If the data is as clear as you say, it shouldn’t be that hard to find a doctor that doesn’t support it. Waiting…
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