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Old 09-10-2021, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by skywatch View Post
Well, I know in July 2020 100% of the people dying from COVID-19 were unvaccinated. So there....
Or dying with COVID-19??
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Old 09-10-2021, 05:39 PM
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Why do you call it that?

Its not what it is.

So stop with the BS.
Sorry, HORSE Dewormer.

DUR HURR... imma take an anti parasidic instead of a vaccine because Russians said it'll save my freedumbs.
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LA School District mandating vaccines for all kids above age 12.
The problem with that is that during the pandemic home schooling has tripled and 3 million kids have dropped out of schooling altogether. That’s a h€|| of a price they are going to pay for a disease that simply doesn’t much affect the 12 and under crowd at all. See the Cal State Department of public health stats:



And it isn’t as if LA schools don’t already have a serious dropout problem…

California posted a near all-time high graduation rate — 83 percent for the Class of 2018 — but the rate of students eligible to apply for state universities hasn’t budged, according to data released last week by the California Department of Education.

In LA Unified, the state’s largest school district, the graduation rate rose to 76.6 percent.

State Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Torlakson said in a news release that “much work needs to be done to make certain all students graduate and to close the continuing achievement gaps between student groups.”
From the LA Times:

BY SONALI KOHLI
OCT. 9, 2019 12:29 PM PT Just over half of public school students who took the state’s standardized English language arts test performed at grade level, while only 4 in 10 are proficient in math, scores that represent a slow upward trend over the past four years, according to data released Wednesday by the state Department of Education.

Proficiency rates rose about 1 percentage point each in both English and math between 2018 and 2019, with 50.9% of students meeting English standards and 39.7% of students meeting math standards on the California Assessment of Student Performance and Progress, designed to test Common Core concepts. However, scores among African American students are markedly lower, prompting calls from educators to address the achievement gap.

Forty thousand high school students in the Los Angeles Unified School District are at risk of not graduating — including 6,000 this year — according to a new analysis that tracks the effects of school closures on students in the nation’s second largest district.

In middle school, about a third of students in the district are currently on grade level in reading and math. Some of the worst learning loss was found in the early grades, where reading skills declined the most in kindergarten and first grade compared to the 2019-20 school year.

With the district preparing to reopen in two weeks, the report, from advocacy group Great Public Schools Now, shows engagement in remote classes has sharply increased since the beginning of the pandemic. But even with that improvement, more than a third of middle and high school students weren’t actively participating in online work last fall, the report found

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Depends on demographics. If you are a kindergartener you’re risk of dying is damn near the null set. If you are an 80 year old rock star on your second liver from Hep C, immune suppressed, living with HIV I believe the term ‘lead pipe cinch’ is apropos…
You are correct. The answer however wasn't for me. I was hoping our OP would be lead to discover that information and piece together the notion that for MOST people, 11x a very small number is still quite a small number. Peak death rate pre-vaccine (when we were all still 'equal') for my age group, 30-39, of which I'm on the upper end of that range, was 0.49 per 100,000. Even at the very recent peak of the 'Delta' wave, after many people have been vaccinated, the peak death rate for my age group peaked at a not much lower 0.36/100k. That kind of context doesn't stoke fear in people, though.

Edit to add this fun tidbit:
From 10JUL to 28AUG, the hospitalization rate for children aged 5-11 increased by a factor of TEN. 10x.

Imagine that headline: CHILD HOSPITALIZATIONS 10X HIGHER THAN SIX WEEKS AGO! BEWARE OF DELTA!

No where in the article would it mention that the rate went from 0.1/100k to 1/100k.

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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
The problem with that is that during the pandemic home schooling has tripled and 3 million kids have dropped out of schooling altogether. That’s a h€|| of a price they are going to pay for a disease that simply doesn’t much affect the 12 and under crowd at all. See the Cal State Department of public health stats:
The problem is the disruption to routine schooling caused by covid cases and at-school transmission. We now get a daily email advising of our kid's casual contact with a covid case. Many kids at our school are now home on quarantine, as are a number of teachers. My kid is vaccinated but I don't know what the policy is for the inevitable close contact when it happens.
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I live in LA County, but where I live the schools are not part of LASD.


Ditto to what rickair said. School just started two Thursdays ago and we got our first "Covid positive" kid case and they're contacting families now. Those will now be quarantined (can't come to school).


This whole thing sucks.
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The problem is the disruption to routine schooling caused by covid cases and at-school transmission. We now get a daily email advising of our kid's casual contact with a covid case. Many kids at our school are now home on quarantine, as are a number of teachers.
and there are politics at work…

Other challenges to increasing learning time for students involve the district’s negotiations with the teachers union last summer over the length of the teacher workday. Hoping not to “shortchange” students, court transcripts show, district negotiators asked for a full, eight-hour day, but the union was able to whittle it down to six, with just four hours and 45 minutes of actual instructional time.

Based on reviews of union agreements in five large districts in California, the report notes that Los Angeles Unified students have the least average number of daily live instructional minutes this year — 114 at the elementary level compared to 255 in Long Beach Unified, which had the most.
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I’ll take covid over living in a liberal run city

https://www.foxnews.com/us/more-kids...ied-covid-2021

A total of 214 children 17 years old or younger have died of COVID-19 so far this year in the country. Comparatively, Chicago police told FOX 32 Chicagoearlier this week that 261 children have been shot — 41 of whom have died.

While COVID-19 cases among children increased significantly between August and September, deaths among this group make up 0-0.27% of all COVID-19 deaths in the states reporting data. Seven states reported zero deaths among children, according to the CDC and American Academy of Pediatrics.
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Originally Posted by DropTank View Post
Sorry, HORSE Dewormer.

DUR HURR... imma take an anti parasidic instead of a vaccine because Russians said it'll save my freedumbs.
Is there a way to put this clown on ignore?
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Is there a way to put this clown on ignore?
Yep. It’s in your user CP. I’ve got four chronic offenders there.
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