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Excargodog 09-12-2021 12:34 PM

Perhaps not the brightest move…
 

Constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley called White House chief of staff Ron Klain’s recent retweet appearing to praise the Biden administration for executing the "ultimate work-around" for President Biden’s recent vaccine mandate "breathtakingly daft."

"The retweet was breathtakingly daft on the eve of litigation over the order. It is reminiscent of President Biden admitting that his own White House counsel and their preferred legal experts all said that the eviction moratorium extension was likely unconstitutional," Turley told Fox News on Friday.

"Courts will now be asked to ignore the admission and uphold a self-admitted evasion of constitutional limits," Turley added. The "problem is that the thing being ‘worked around’ is the Constitution."
BIDEN DECLARES SWEEPING NEW VACCINE MANDATE: 'THIS IS NOT ABOUT FREEDOM'

Turley’s comment came in response to Klain retweeting MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle on Thursday, who tweeted: "OSHA doing this vaxx mandate as an emergency workplace safety rule is the ultimate work-around for the Federal govt to require vaccinations."
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxne....jpg?ve=1&tl=1"Klain effectively became a witness for the challengers in labeling the order an evasion or subterfuge designed for the courts. Klain leaves the courts in the unenviable position of ratifying an order that the Administration admits is a mere work around to evade constitutional limits. It is akin to claiming self-defense in an assault case while saying that it was the best way to shoot the guy," Turley said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jon...e-retweet-daft

DropTank 09-12-2021 01:28 PM

Wow, Faux News being anti science.

What a shock!

Excargodog 09-12-2021 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by DropTank (Post 3294140)
Wow, Faux News being anti science.

What a shock!

Not a matter of being anti science, just pro good sense.

it was sort of like when Biden said the CDC extending the moratorium on foreclosures was unconstitutional, but we are going to do it anyway. That practically forced the SCOTUS to rule against it. Technically, it’s ‘an admission against interest’ but colloquially it is dumb as dirt. Science isn’t even really involved.

DeltaboundRedux 09-12-2021 03:40 PM

TLDR version:

Biden administration official tweets that using OSHA was a way to get around Constitutional prohibitions.

This will be used as an admission of clear intent to violate statutory limits.

Zero about science, more about poor governance.

DropTank 09-12-2021 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3294173)
Not a matter of being anti science, just pro good sense.

it was sort of like when Biden said the CDC extending the moratorium on foreclosures was unconstitutional, but we are going to do it anyway. That practically forced the SCOTUS to rule against it. Technically, it’s ‘an admission against interest’ but colloquially it is dumb as dirt. Science isn’t even really involved.

Says a man who doesn't understand science.

dualinput 09-13-2021 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by DropTank (Post 3294322)
Says a man who doesn't understand science.

Dude you’re not making any sense. Not sure what about this thread has anything to do w science.

Gone Flying 09-13-2021 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3294365)
Dude you’re not making any sense. Not sure what about this thread has anything to do w science.

it’s like a cult with some…they always “follow the science” and anyone who disagrees with them is a “science denier”. it does not matter if science is the subject matter or if we are talking about constitutional law…you are a science denier.

HIFLYR 09-13-2021 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by DropTank (Post 3294322)
Says a man who doesn't understand science.

apparently neither do you what about people who have natural immunity and it’s stronger according to a study in Israel.

HPIC 09-13-2021 07:48 AM

Biden once equated legislating by executive order to be dictatorial. Well, he was right. This is what we have now. They will continue to overreach and make the courts stop it. Klain’s tweet was pretty stupid, but the Biden supporters will ignore it and even defend it.

Excargodog 09-13-2021 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by DropTank (Post 3294322)
Says a man who doesn't understand science.


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3294365)
Dude you’re not making any sense. Not sure what about this thread has anything to do w science.

it’s a lost cause trying to explain it to him, dualinput.

It’s just an excuse for him to not even address the issue. To not engage in a discussion he knows he can’t win. Sort of like in the early 1940s in Germany when you could shut down an argument by saying “He’s a dirty Jew, don’t listen to him.”


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