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Old 09-17-2021, 07:36 PM
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Israel is 80% vaccinated. Their infection rate has never been higher…




Not very many dying, but the virus continues to spread.

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Old 09-17-2021, 08:19 PM
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Current vaccines won't stop the spread, as long as Anti-Va is a thing.
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Old 09-17-2021, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DropTank View Post
Current vaccines won't stop the spread, as long as Anti-Va is a thing.
You seriously think the US is going to get higher than 80% immunized? Highest in the world is only 83% in Malta.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/international
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SARS-CoV-2 is on its way to becoming endemic.

Nobody would particularly care about case numbers if severe disease was rare...as it certainly appears to be in highly-vaccinated Israel.

Amazing what a novel virus no longer being novel to your immune system can do for outcomes.
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SARS-CoV-2 is on its way to becoming endemic.

Nobody would particularly care about case numbers if severe disease was rare...as it certainly appears to be in highly-vaccinated Israel.

Amazing what a novel virus no longer being novel to your immune system can do for outcomes.
Indeed. But like the four other commonly circulating coronaviruses (229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1), and the 200+ Other viruses ( rhinoviruses, respiratory syncytial virus, parainfluenza virus, adenoviruses - heck even some enteroviruses) that commonly cause colds, even a cold will kill you if you are old with comorbidities, which is exactly where the overwhelming number of these fatalities are coming from. And at the other end - those under 18 who make up 22.5% of the population are only accounting for 35/67,187 of the mortality.

we are stealing these kids future to protect the 70+ year olds and not even all 6% of them, mainly the ones with comorbidities- and those mostly already vaccinated now - or already dead.




https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...Age-Group.aspx


So basically, it will be possible to keep up the COVID scare indefinitely even when it ought to fade into the background - if the media tries hard enough.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
You seriously think the US is going to get higher than 80% immunized? Highest in the world is only 83% in Malta.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/international
No freakin' way.

And it'll need to go at least 95% immunity to get to 'herd immunity' at its present contagious level.
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No freakin' way.

And it'll need to go at least 95% immunity to get to 'herd immunity' at its present contagious level.
Is that immunized or total of immunized plus un-immunized but have had the virus?
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Is that immunized or total of immunized plus un-immunized but have had the virus?
The coronavirus is too slippery to ever achieve a non-endemic state.
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The coronavirus is too slippery to ever achieve a non-endemic state.
Worst case it will eventually become endemic but mild. Dangerous viruses tend to be self-limiting, especially in humans who will take deliberate, intelligent action to avoid said bugs (unlike all other species).

Also after enough people have been exposed to one or more strains of covid, natural immunity will play a big role in severity. Except for an unlikely few who are genetically very susceptible, whose genes will be de-selected from the species (although vaccination can mitigate that too).
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Indeed. But like the four other commonly circulating coronaviruses (229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1), and the 200+ Other viruses ( rhinoviruses, respiratory syncytial virus, parainfluenza virus, adenoviruses - heck even some enteroviruses) that commonly cause colds, even a cold will kill you if you are old with comorbidities, which is exactly where the overwhelming number of these fatalities are coming from. And at the other end - those under 18 who make up 22.5% of the population are only accounting for 35/67,187 of the mortality.

we are stealing these kids future to protect the 70+ year olds and not even all 6% of them, mainly the ones with comorbidities- and those mostly already vaccinated now - or already dead.




https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...Age-Group.aspx


So basically, it will be possible to keep up the COVID scare indefinitely even when it ought to fade into the background - if the media tries hard enough.
Have you researched Social Security/Medicare finances which are basically the same thing—steal from the young to provide money to the richest population group.
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