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Old 10-08-2021, 06:31 PM
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Well, here it is. It hit me that it was inevitable when Southwest announced it. Once it's at critical mass then it's easy for everyone else to fall in line.

And what a cowardly move. A Friday evening email with no name on it? Also, no real information other than "you must be vaccinated by November 24th." Where is the leadership in that? Oh, by the way, you need to get vaccinated. If you are a young male and you get myocarditis, that will be your problem. Ok? Thanks.

It will be interesting to see what people do. I don't have high hopes or expectations but a lot of you know this is unacceptable and a line needs to be drawn in a sand. This is a hot topic and I'm surely stepping into a hornet's nest by discussing it, but avoiding the topic isn't really a choice anymore, is it?

I'll be the first one here to say that I am a "no."
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Old 10-08-2021, 06:37 PM
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Well said. The only holdouts now are DL,G4,F9 and NK I think
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Old 10-08-2021, 06:44 PM
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Well, here it is. It hit me that it was inevitable when Southwest announced it. Once it's at critical mass then it's easy for everyone else to fall in line.



And what a cowardly move. A Friday evening email with no name on it? Also, no real information other than "you must be vaccinated by November 24th." Where is the leadership in that? Oh, by the way, you need to get vaccinated. If you are a young male and you get myocarditis, that will be your problem. Ok? Thanks.



It will be interesting to see what people do. I don't have high hopes or expectations but a lot of you know this is unacceptable and a line needs to be drawn in a sand. This is a hot topic and I'm surely stepping into a hornet's nest by discussing it, but avoiding the topic isn't really a choice anymore, is it?



I'll be the first one here to say that I am a "no."
Really? The time stamp of the email means that much to you? Perhaps management came to a decision towards the end of the day and simply wanted to give everyone as much time as possible to plan accordingly.

Also, if you would prefer the status quo, let me point out that our contract already would prevent you from ever flying again here anyway if you don't have a vaccine that is required for a trip - which by law will be pretty much everything. Section 26.DD

And while I think everyone has the responsibility to make their own decisions about their personal situation, I think that the company has the same right. A great thing about America is you have the freedom to leave and seek employment elsewhere!

If you decide it's not worth it, I hope you find excellent work elsewhere, and quickly (especially if you're senior to me).




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Old 10-08-2021, 07:49 PM
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Really? The time stamp of the email means that much to you? Perhaps management came to a decision towards the end of the day and simply wanted to give everyone as much time as possible to plan accordingly.

Also, if you would prefer the status quo, let me point out that our contract already would prevent you from ever flying again here anyway if you don't have a vaccine that is required for a trip - which by law will be pretty much everything. Section 26.DD

And while I think everyone has the responsibility to make their own decisions about their personal situation, I think that the company has the same right. A great thing about America is you have the freedom to leave and seek employment elsewhere!

If you decide it's not worth it, I hope you find excellent work elsewhere, and quickly (especially if you're senior to me).




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Yes. Friday evening emails and then head for the hills is classless. It shows a lack of leadership. Otherwise, especially with no other specifics beside a date which is about 6 weeks in the future, why couldn't you wait until Monday morning? Also, why not put your name on it? This is a big deal that could costs multiple pilots their livelihoods, or face the decision of risking their health. We got emails to soothe our emotions if we felt upset by police shooting criminals but we don't even get a modicum of understanding in this case?
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Old 10-08-2021, 10:18 PM
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If you are a young male and you get myocarditis, that will be your problem. Ok? Thanks.
Get one of the other vaccines which doesn't have that history?
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Old 10-09-2021, 04:46 AM
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Well said. The only holdouts now are DL,G4,F9 and NK I think
It is required at G4 (Allegiant) too.
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I am sure the WW2 guys would be proud. You know the generation that believed in "working together for the greater good."

As a side not that era is when vaccines took a huge step forward.
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anyone have a pre-formatted religious exemption?
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Old 10-09-2021, 10:43 AM
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I am sure the WW2 guys would be proud. You know the generation that believed in "working together for the greater good."

As a side not that era is when vaccines took a huge step forward.
Get serious. You can’t possibly be drawing this comparison.
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