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Mesabah 11-19-2021 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3325096)
The post was about how the vaccine can't be legit because it requires several shots. I was simply replying that several vaccines required for kids to attend public school requires several primes and/or boosters.

That has less than nothing to do with any kind of employment mandate.

I think the issue is that the manufacturer never claimed the vaccines last more than 6 months, and/or prevented transmission. The gov, with the media, claimed that the manufacturers were actually wrong, and the vaccine would last many years. Of course, certain members of this forum take what the media/gov says as gospel.

DeltaboundRedux 11-19-2021 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3325077)
Once again, lots of vaccines require multiple shots. You're getting worked up over nothing.

Well, yeah, of course. Apples and oranges, false equivalency. You do see that, right?

There is literally no end in sight to a 3-6 month boosting protocol for a vaccine that isn't changing and a virus that is.

Those other vaccines were released after a years, if not decades, of testing over a wide range of recipients. With significant liability for the manufactures if they went south.

Most of all, those vaccines were not, for the most part, effectively mandatory as a condition of employment for the huge swath of the general adult population.

Nor were they the first release of a new type of "vaccine" mechanism. (mRNA).

(They're probably a good idea for at risk..the old, the fat, the diabetic...Americans, basically.)

No one at the start of this thing every hinted at this vaccine every 3-6 months for the indefinite future. Doesn't it bother you that there is literally no research available for the long term effects of that?

SIUav8er 11-19-2021 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3325096)
The post was about how the vaccine can't be legit because it requires several shots. I was simply replying that several vaccines required for kids to attend public school requires several primes and/or boosters.

That has less than nothing to do with any kind of employment mandate.

In almost every state, it is EASY to get exemptions for public schools

​​​​​​This has everything to do with mandates. The only reason we are even discussing it is due to the mandates. How many shots do we have to take to keep our jobs? How many shots will you take? Is 3 the magic number? 4? 1 per month?

My point is, "they" have no clue how many boosters we will need, or if the currently available vaccines are even going work at all! Which is exactly the reason it is absolute insanity that there is any sort of government mandates.

Im still trying to figure out why the shots are even called vaccines if they only reduce symptoms (allegedly).

Excargodog 11-20-2021 06:35 AM

One wonders if even Austria
 
…which is 75% vaccinated, has the ability to force the other 25%into getting vaccinated:

https://i.ibb.co/HKXwtJr/E612-F978-D...1-DDFA36-D.jpg

And even if they do, will it do any good in interrupting the epidemic? Because many of those already vaccinated - and the most vulnerable ones at that who were given priority for early shots - are already due or overdue for boosters.

Nvrgofullretard 11-20-2021 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 3325101)
I think the issue is that the manufacturer never claimed the vaccines last more than 6 months, and/or prevented transmission. The gov, with the media, claimed that the manufacturers were actually wrong, and the vaccine would last many years. Of course, certain members of this forum take what the media/gov says as gospel.

source? Not saying that the gov didn’t claim the vaccine would last “many years”, I just can’t find any official language on that. If you can’t either, please refrain from passing on propaganda

JohnBurke 11-20-2021 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 3324099)
I cringe when I hear people on CNN claiming the unvaccinated are making variants, and this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. That is a complete lie. It's a pandemic of the unhealthy.

Perspective.

Hospitalization, especially severe cases, and most deaths with Covid, occur among the unvaccinated.

One could opine that in their hospitalized state, they are unhealthy.

Mesabah 11-20-2021 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard (Post 3325240)
source? Not saying that the gov didn’t claim the vaccine would last “many years”, I just can’t find any official language on that. If you can’t either, please refrain from passing on propaganda

You don't remember the entire debate over the summer where heads of the FDA starting resigning over boosters?
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/13/10366...e-booster-shot

rickair7777 11-20-2021 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3325105)
Well, yeah, of course. Apples and oranges, false equivalency. You do see that, right?

There is literally no end in sight to a 3-6 month boosting protocol for a vaccine that isn't changing and a virus that is.

The virus doesn't actually mutate that much, it just had a whole lot of opportunity due to the pandemic. That opportunity is declining, and as far as I've heard there have been no new "game changer" variants since delta (not saying it can't happen, just that it's not likely to happen a lot).

Also it appears possible or likely that significant mutations only occur in very rare patients who have extended covid due to immune issues... that's good because it means that the source is easy to identify and rare enough to largely control.

Worst case it will settle out to annual boosters, possibly modified for any variants (just like the flu).


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3325105)
No one at the start of this thing every hinted at this vaccine every 3-6 months for the indefinite future. Doesn't it bother you that there is literally no research available for the long term effects of that?

There is no "long-term effect" for a discrete biological event. It's not cumulative, it does it's thing and is gone and the immune response then starts to decline... if it didn't wrong within days or a couple weeks, it's not going to. That's just how the biology works.

Excargodog 11-20-2021 09:05 AM

https://i.ibb.co/5FR0pKW/976-CA97-F-...E5-F31-EBA.jpg

beetlehog 11-20-2021 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3325105)
Well, yeah, of course. Apples and oranges, false equivalency. You do see that, right?

There is literally no end in sight to a 3-6 month boosting protocol for a vaccine that isn't changing and a virus that is.

Those other vaccines were released after a years, if not decades, of testing over a wide range of recipients. With significant liability for the manufactures if they went south.

Most of all, those vaccines were not, for the most part, effectively mandatory as a condition of employment for the huge swath of the general adult population.

Nor were they the first release of a new type of "vaccine" mechanism. (mRNA).

(They're probably a good idea for at risk..the old, the fat, the diabetic...Americans, basically.)

No one at the start of this thing every hinted at this vaccine every 3-6 months for the indefinite future. Doesn't it bother you that there is literally no research available for the long term effects of that?

The little research that they did will not be fully disclosed until the mid 2050's. Ain't that great! Trust the science ya'll.


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