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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 3329714)
What about all those that have already had covid and have robust immunity, will they just go on living healthy and happy lives?
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Vaccines were sold as a way to reduce and prevent transmission. The actual survival rate of those infected is likely greater than 99.8%. But, science now shows us the vaccines likely do not reduce transmission, and the vaccines are relatively ineffective in those that are at higher risk (elderly, immunocompromised and morbidly obese, men, etc.).
https://cspicenter.org/blog/waronscience/have-we-been-thinking-about-the-pandemic-wrong-the-effect-of-population-structure-on-transmission/ Epidemiologic models regarding COVID are inaccurate. They are not scientific. They are wrong. To continue to base behavior, ideas, concepts and politics on inaccurate models is not science. It may help Fauci's ego and protect the WHO...but it hurts the rest of us. Perhaps Fauci is happy he doesn't live in a country where he would be hanging from a construction crane, but I doubt his ego and narcissism would allow that much self awareness. |
Originally Posted by Thedude86
(Post 3329559)
His record of what speaks for itself? Being wrong on almost every subject for the past year? It wasn’t just one comment about masks. He’s made numerous comments to colleagues saying they do absolutely nothing. What he says publicly is not the same as what he says privately. Almost every single study about masks with actual data supports everything that Dr. Fauci says privately. Not just masks, but almost everything he says contradicts what he’s said the 30 years pre-Covid.
There are actually tons of doctors and infectious disease experts, including one of the earliest developers of mRNA vaccines that have differing opinions but you choose not to listen to them because you would give more weight to a pre-med student as long as he is on TV compared to someone with 30 years of expertise if he’s not quoted by one of your “trusted” sources. You do realize that half the world feels the same way right? It’s not just the Qanon people who watch Tucker. Or perhaps I missed last night’s ratings…. Brian Stelter 600k Rachel Maddow 800k Tucker 4 Billion Apparently Tucker is pretty popular in Asia, Africa, and South America. Your infectious disease experts are so smart that a month ago we surpassed more deaths in the U.S. in 2021 than in 2020 when absolutely ZERO people were vaccinated. Despite over 80% of the highest risk people being vaccinated now. Your experts are so smart that almost all of the highest vaccinated counties in the U.S., almost all of the highest vaccinated states in the U.S., and almost every highly vaccinated country in the world have the highest Covid case rates than their lower vaccinated counterparts. In some areas it’s even HIGHER than 2020 when NO ONE was vaccinated. Not to mention Gibraltar’s experts have cancelled all of the Christmas celebrations because of a large spike in Covid even though over 99% of their population is vaccinated and over 50% is triple vaccinated. Your experts are so smart that Florida, which is arguably the least restricted state in the country… has the lowest case rate of any state in the U.S. Not one of the lowest… the lowest. While also having one of oldest populations in the country who are the most at risk group. Your experts are so smart that many of the countries with Omicron will not let you in if youre not vaccinated. Yet, somehow, Omicron made it to their country anyway. I wonder how that happened? |
Originally Posted by fishforfun
(Post 3329805)
Do you really believe most unvaccinated end up in the hospital or dead?
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/03/...timate-n380956 |
Booster ready?
Originally Posted by fishforfun
(Post 3329805)
Do you really believe most unvaccinated end up in the hospital or dead?
The people that actually get Covid? Yes I do. They have a much higher rate than a vaccinated person will. Almost two years in and you don’t understand this? |
Booster ready?
Originally Posted by ProudAmerican
(Post 3329719)
99% recovery rate. Keep drinking that Fauci kool aid.
There’s more to the story than that “99% survival rate.” Ever hear of long-Covid? |
Originally Posted by Learflyer2
(Post 3329916)
There’s more to the story than that “99% survival rate.” Ever hear of long-Covid?
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Originally Posted by Learflyer2
(Post 3329915)
The people that actually get Covid? Yes I do. They have a much higher rate than a vaccinated person will. Almost two years in and you don’t understand this?
The absolute simplest google search in the world would show you that the overwhelming majority of people, vaccinated or unvaccinated, who get Covid are not hospitalized. Two years in and you still don’t understand that? |
Originally Posted by Learflyer2
(Post 3329915)
The people that actually get Covid? Yes I do. They have a much higher rate than a vaccinated person will. Almost two years in and you don’t understand this?
I support getting vaccinated and a 70 yo who would have otherwise died will live because of it. But for the vast majority of those who choose to not be vaccinated, it will be a bad cold. The only thing holding us back at the moment are policies, not vaccination status. |
Originally Posted by Learflyer2
(Post 3329916)
There’s more to the story than that “99% survival rate.” Ever hear of long-Covid?
Of more interest: Re-infection. That's a story that's underreported. The data, of course, is crap, but I read somewhere that something like (maybe) 30% of those who had Covid and counted on "natural immunity" were reinfected at a later date. IDK. The data is crap, your government lies daily about a million different things, and Big Pharma exists to make huge profits -- and Pfizer/Moderna are completely retooling to "treat" Covid as their primary business model. |
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