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Old 03-17-2022, 07:23 PM
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[/QUOTE]Moderna asked the Food and Drug Administration for emergency authorization of a second booster of its COVID-19 vaccine for all adults, according to a recent New York Times report.

This past Tuesday Pfizer, along with its partner, BioNTech, requested emergency authorization for a second booster for those 65 and older, based primarily on data from Israel, where the boosters are authorized for a broader age group, per the news outlet.[QUOTE]
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All I can say is if my dog received 2 rabies vaccinations and a booster, and still got rabies, I’d have a few questions. Just sayin’
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Rabies is not a pandemic. Rabies is not Covid; comparing one medication for one disease against an unrelated medicine for an unrelated disease is a straw-man fallacy.

If a person is exposed to rabies, as you've introduced it (despite its irrelevance, and despite you "just sayin"), he or she is expected to receive a post-exposure vaccination and a post-exposure human rabies immune globulin, then on days subsequent to exposure, receive an additional vaccination on day 3, day 7 and day 14. Go figure.
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I hope the second booster is cleared for all ages. I hope all the institutions that mandated the initial vax and booster also mandate the second booster. Schools, government entities, federal contractors, etc.

So many people were all so dang proud to go out and get their initial vaccination. Then, when the boosters came about, I heard a little bit of grumbling here and there, but most dutifully went down to the local clinic and got boosted.

Saddle up, sheep. Time for your second booster. Better yet, while you're here, just make an appointment for your third booster. It should be ready about six months from now......
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
Rabies is not a pandemic. Rabies is not Covid; comparing one medication for one disease against an unrelated medicine for an unrelated disease is a straw-man fallacy.

If a person is exposed to rabies, as you've introduced it (despite its irrelevance, and despite you "just sayin"), he or she is expected to receive a post-exposure vaccination and a post-exposure human rabies immune globulin, then on days subsequent to exposure, receive an additional vaccination on day 3, day 7 and day 14. Go figure.
Why not? Why shouldn’t vaccinated mean the same thing regardless of what illness you are vaccinated for?

I don’t remember anyone two years ago saying Covid “vaccination” was only going to provide protection for four months…does that sound like any accepted definition of vaccination prior to this pandemic?
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
Rabies is not a pandemic. Rabies is not Covid; comparing one medication for one disease against an unrelated medicine for an unrelated disease is a straw-man fallacy.

If a person is exposed to rabies, as you've introduced it (despite its irrelevance, and despite you "just sayin"), he or she is expected to receive a post-exposure vaccination and a post-exposure human rabies immune globulin, then on days subsequent to exposure, receive an additional vaccination on day 3, day 7 and day 14. Go figure.
Because rabies will kill you dead within hours and no one wants their brain to start hemorrhaging to a slow painful death if you survive the initial onslaught of your blood coagulating till your heart stops suddenly like an engine ran without oil. Now, your reply relies heavily on not being challenged just like many that have taken on this dogma approach for the last couple of years. No matter if you call it strawman to avoid the challenge, it's still a very valid point.
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I still can’t understand why pilots would continue to risk their long-term health and the validity of their FAA medical certificate by taking an EXPERIMENTAL drug/vaccine for something that is 99.9x% survivable with known treatments.
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
Rabies is not a pandemic. Rabies is not Covid; comparing one medication for one disease against an unrelated medicine for an unrelated disease is a straw-man fallacy.

If a person is exposed to rabies, as you've introduced it (despite its irrelevance, and despite you "just sayin"), he or she is expected to receive a post-exposure vaccination and a post-exposure human rabies immune globulin, then on days subsequent to exposure, receive an additional vaccination on day 3, day 7 and day 14. Go figure.
Okay, how about this, when there are signs that the vaccine has a negative efficacy then I might start asking questions:

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/...a/comments?s=r
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Three jabs didn't do the trick, but four, now you're talking.....
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Why not? Why shouldn’t vaccinated mean the same thing regardless of what illness you are vaccinated for?

I don’t remember anyone two years ago saying Covid “vaccination” was only going to provide protection for four months…does that sound like any accepted definition of vaccination prior to this pandemic?
Ah, ok. Forget the post-exposure treatment for rabies, then. While your example is irrelevant and meaningless with respect to Covid, you doggedly intend to cling to it, suggesting it's still got some validity.

Consider the pre-exposure rabies vaccination (which I have); it involves three shots, on days 0, 7, and 21 or 28. The truth is, a great many vaccines require multiple injections, and experience waning effects with time. Also true of most vaccinations; one may still be infected, even having been vaccinated. Certainly true of Covid. Of course, nearly all hospitalizations, and nearly add deaths, presently, occur with those who are not vaccinated. Presently increases in Hong Kong and South Korea show increased infections in both cases, but higher death rate in Hong Kong, where vaccinations for the elderly have a much lower incidence. The same demographic in South Korea shows far fewer deaths, and a correspondingly. higher level of vaccination.

If you don't remember anyone saying two years ago that a Covid vaccination was going to provide protection for only four months, it may be due to the fact that there wasn't a covid vaccine two years ago, and perhaps because the vaccine doesn't only provide protection for four months.

The vaccine's thus far fielded, being some of the most vetted and tested vaccines, with some of the highest sample yields of any ever fielded in vaccination history, have provided much better efficacy than most vaccines. When a vaccine has an initial effectiveness in the 91 percent rage (or higher), that's elevated quite a bit above what one can expect from many vaccines. When its effectiveness decreases to a point still above that which many vaccines provide, it's still doing well. Adding booster shots to bring the effectiveness back up isn't a bad thing, nor unwarranted, and has been a recommendation among the top health authorities on the planet.

I just came back from a flight physical; my AME is a pulmonary specialist who has been heavily involved in treating those hospitalized, including many in intensive care, these past two years. He's carried a high work load and he's seen a lot of people die. We had a talk about his thoughts on a fourth vaccination; he intends to get it, strongly recommended I do, too, and I will.

Others will choose not to be vaccinated at all. That's their choice. I don't really care.

So far as vaccinations that utilize boosters, there are many. Looking back at my shot record, I see multiple vaccines which have been received on a recurring basis. When the time interval comes around again, I'll get the vaccine again. That includes the rabies vaccine...I had the three shots to start, and if I need the vaccine after a bite (post-exposure), I'll get what's required. Few things in life last forever, whether it's the last meal, the roof, or a vaccine. Many vaccines utilize boosters, and initial shots in multiples. Not exactly a shock that a covid vaccine sees improved efficacy with additional shots over a given interval.
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