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Old 09-16-2022, 09:53 AM
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It would never happen because the CDC and FDA are just a front for the pharmaceuticals, but if they ever actually said 50 and under will not offered the shot in the U.S. it would be a pretty big deal. I think you’re glancing over the elephant in the room like it’s no big deal. Let’s pretend they’re not offering it just because they don’t feel a need to fund it…. Why do numerous countries not recommend it if you’re under 30? That has nothing to do with funding. That’s their health agencies saying if you’re under 30 and healthy not to get it.
I never said big pharma is particularly trustworthy. My kids got the first one because we wanted to go to Europe last year. They've had other vaccines to participate in sports, camps, etc. At this point, unless something changes, they will not get any more covid boosters unless needed for some activity. I'm not going to move to the mountains and homeschool just to avoid vaccines but they're not getting vaccines of any sort "just because".

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The vaccines worked better for the original strain but not well. Pfizer’s own documents show their effectiveness was less than half of what they advertised. No one knows the true numbers of deaths caused by actual Covid because they included everyone as long as they tested positive. There were more Covid deaths in 2021 than in 2020 when no one was vaxxed.
That's because everyone was hiding under their beds. Also the deaths in 2021 were mostly the unvaxxed, after society opened back up.

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I think you’re a lost cause when it comes to safety. I’ve posted tons of data that shows they’re not even in the same universe as other vaccines.
None of which appears remotely reliable, fringe wingnut blogs don't count at least not here.

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You could argue whether the virus or vaccines are worse depending on age, but to say these vaccines are just as safe as previous vaccines is disingenuous. Even the CDC’s own data and statements from their own director show they have more side effects than other vaccines.
The *typical* reaction is stronger than some common vaccines such as the flu, hence the 48 hour no-fly requirement for us. But serious adverse effects which persist long-term are still in line with other vaccines.

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You base your opinions on statements from pharma funded agencies with no data to back them up. The CDC could tell you 10x as many kids die from the vaccines than the virus but it’s still safe and effective so we think you should vaccinate your 5 year old… and you would say, “well the CDC recommends it”.
Don't put words in my mouth.

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For young kids the flu was 5x worse than even the original Covid strain.
Yes. I don't think vaccinating kids was ever about THEIR health, it was about allowing school and other activities to get back to normal, and about protecting others.

There is a very legit debate about the ethics of exposing kids to slight vaccine risk for the benefit of others (that applies to any vaccine). But again, this is not china, nobody *had* to get a vaccine here.

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Yes, I never saw that you supported mandates but you act like they weren’t a big deal because no one was forced. Yea no one was forced. No one lost their job because they didn’t get the shot. No one was left out of school because they didn’t get the shot. No one was denied medical treatment because they didn’t get the shot. At least they weren’t forced. All is well.
I'm all about Freedom, but it can be a biatch because it cuts BOTH ways... private individuals and organizations have the freedom to not associate with YOU if they don't want to. Some "freedom" advocates are real big on THEIR freedoms but whine like little you-know-what's if somebody else's freedom impacts them in a manner they don't care for.

Government, not so much. Mil (and schools) have a justification because the close quarters and hygiene challenges ensure that covid would spread rapidly and that would be very disruptive. AD mil and students are generally young and healthy, but they couldn't have them taking covid home to older, less healthy relatives.
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Choosing to vaccinate your healthy kids is like playing russian roulette for no prize.
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Old 10-14-2022, 11:13 AM
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Just another data point on mRNA injections.

FL surgeon general recommends against males ages 18-39 from receiving mRNA Covid 19 “vaccines” after study shows an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac related death within 28 days of mRNA injection.

https://www.floridahealth.gov/newsro...accine.pr.html

Colleges still requiring boosters and first responders and coast guard still getting fired for not complying with mandates.
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https://www.wnd.com/2022/10/study-confirms-covid-death-risk-near-zero-vast-majority/
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The WaPo - More deaths now are of those Vaccinated
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Old 11-24-2022, 03:03 PM
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That's because...

A very large majority of *at risk* people are vaccinated. I'm sure that mask wearers also have a high fatality rate, same reason.

Variants get around the original vaccine.

Not everyone is getting updated boosters (including me, at least not yet).

If you're not at-risk you most likely have enough natural or hybrid immunity that it's a non-issue at this point, ie a common cold.

If you're actually at-risk, probably better roll up your sleeve.
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Anyone still listening to Fauci or the CDC/WH people, need to have their head examined. Anyone who got their kids vaccinated solely for the intent of travel.... well, best of luck.


We all know how this will turn out one day... with a commercial including the words "vaccine, FDA, cancer/heart or some other issue..." and at the end a 1-800 number for a law firm.

I have a video that snipped together all the news articles about vaccine effectiveness.. starts at 99% and within months down to roughly 50%... it's just a tik-tok style video, but quite telling.


My ultimate favorite was when the Liberals compared the Smallpox/Polio vaccine to the Covid vaccine.... how'd that comparison turn out? And no Rickair, you could have a whole classroom of kids vaccinated, they will all still spread it the exact same as if none were. The vaccine did nothing for society for those that weren't going to already be perfectly fine in the first place. In fact, I'd say the "forced" vaccination for people who didn't want it, solely on the lie that if you got vaccinated you would save humanity, did more to ruin society than anything else.
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