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Old 03-26-2017, 05:48 PM
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I voted yes for the contract because virtual basing, lca trip pulls, and sick changes had no teeth in them.

Put teeth in them, and I'll have zero reservations on voting no again.
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...just an innocuous little addition here. Until...

This is a long term project for management, small bites at the apple until it's obvious there's no stopping its consumption.
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Virtual basing will be hard if they have multiple aircraft types operating. Take mco for example. Last time I was there I counted 19 planes spending the night but 4 different fleet types
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...just an innocuous little addition here. Until...

This is a long term project for management, small bites at the apple until it's obvious there's no stopping its consumption.
That's why attention to detail is important. If they want to throw crap in there that they can't use, that's fine. If they want to change it to something onerous, not fine.
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That's why attention to detail is important. If they want to throw crap in there that they can't use, that's fine. If they want to change it to something onerous, not fine.
The VB issue will have to be very closely watched. I still say we pull it down in the near future, as the only point to it is to reduce pilot jobs. If they really need to staff the peak months where they don't have a base, they can do that regardless of VB's with hotels and deadheads...and credit...which means block hours and jobs.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
The VB issue will have to be very closely watched. I still say we pull it down in the near future, as the only point to it is to reduce pilot jobs. If they really need to staff the peak months where they don't have a base, they can do that regardless of VB's with hotels and deadheads...and credit...which means block hours and jobs.
I overall agree. Anything further than its current form is a nice tall glass of nope.
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Old 03-27-2017, 04:39 AM
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I think Boston will be a virtual base with 3 or 4 fleets. Maybe they will start with 1, but if it works for them I think they will add more in quick fashion.
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I think Boston will be a virtual base with 3 or 4 fleets. Maybe they will start with 1, but if it works for them I think they will add more in quick fashion.
Why would they do that?
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Old 03-27-2017, 05:40 AM
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The TA1 to TA2 curbing of the VB worked nicely for them. Ask for what you really want, when you don't get it, dial it back a bit but keep the structure. The next time it might be ask for more, perhaps with a sweetener of a wide-body order if we could only initiate international departures. Perhaps that's unpalatable so, dial it back to only BOS where there's a ready commuter contingent and a senior wide-body group who crave driving to work.

Would that be the head of the camel or the front legs as well? The nose came in about 3 months ago. This tent is going to get crowded, mark my words.
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Old 03-27-2017, 05:54 AM
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I recently heard that network plans to move most if not all of the ATL 7er European flying to the 330. Anybody else heard this?

Fair warning, I don't know where the 4th floor is even located so consider this rumor unsubstantiated (but not made up).

Booooooooooo

Wouldn't be surprised .. hopefully makes guys bail off. Nothing wrong with nice domestic trips.
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