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avi8tor220 07-08-2017 08:43 AM

Yellow slip on X day pay
 
Looks like greenslips are scarce so I was wondering how pay would work if I yellowslipped to fly on a day off as a reserve. Does the credit go on top of guarantee or does the credit go towards your reserve guarantee? I understand I won't get PB days but I would like to credit some more hours. Also what's the priority for yellow slipping on a day off? Do guys on working reserve days get trips before guys requesting it on days off? Thanks.

Xray678 07-08-2017 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by avi8tor220 (Post 2391418)
Looks like greenslips are scarce so I was wondering how pay would work if I yellowslipped to fly on a day off as a reserve. Does the credit go on top of guarantee or does the credit go towards your reserve guarantee? I understand I won't get PB days but I would like to credit some more hours. Also what's the priority for yellow slipping on a day off? Do guys on working reserve days get trips before guys requesting it on days off? Thanks.

The credit goes toward the guarantee. No payback days. Take a look at the contract, but the assignment sequence is different depending on the time to report. If I remember correctly, under twelve hours a pilot on x days goes ahead of long call pilots.

I have used the yellow slip on x days, but only a couple of times. Once to get a good trip on my last x day and avoid a crappy trip on my first on call day, and the other time in an effort to fill up early and have the last week of the month off. Worked perfectly both times.

pb4ufly 07-08-2017 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by avi8tor220 (Post 2391418)
Looks like greenslips are scarce so I was wondering how pay would work if I yellowslipped to fly on a day off as a reserve. Does the credit go on top of guarantee or does the credit go towards your reserve guarantee? I understand I won't get PB days but I would like to credit some more hours. Also what's the priority for yellow slipping on a day off? Do guys on working reserve days get trips before guys requesting it on days off? Thanks.

yellow slip on Xday = working for free unfortunately

tunes 07-08-2017 04:27 PM

The only way I could see it viable is Nov or December to try and fill up to get the holiday off


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Airfix 07-08-2017 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2391425)
The credit goes toward the guarantee. No payback days. Take a look at the contract

Can you point me in the approximate area of the contract for a yellow slip on an x day going towards guarantee not on top of guarantee. I checked section 23 T but couldn't find how it is paid.

FL370esq 07-09-2017 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by Airfix (Post 2391739)
Can you point me in the approximate area of the contract for a yellow slip on an x day going towards guarantee not on top of guarantee. I checked section 23 T but couldn't find how it is paid.

You won't find the express language you were looking for because the YS theoretically makes the X day disappear in order to award the trip.

A yellow slip is basically a "If you are going to use me on reserve, this is how I prefer to be used" tool. In this case, you are using the YS to "volunteer" to have an extra on-call day (see 23.T.2.c) at the expense of your X day or Golden X day and 23.T.6.b tells you that "[a]n X-day(s) lost as a result of such yellow slip award will be forfeited." In short, while on reserve you can either be on an X day or an on-call day but you can't be on both.

Because you are giving yourself an extra on-call day (up to a max of 2 per 23.A.59.c), you won't find the language you were looking for because that rotation you YS'd was flown over an on-call day, not on an X day. Again, that X day was lost and forfeited by the YS. Therefore, the YS rotation will only credit against the reserve guarantee just like any other rotation flown while on reserve over an on-call day.

A GS/IA, however, does not forfeit an X day like a YS does. That is why you get paid back that day and, because you were flying over an X day, you weren't flying over an on-call day and therefore you get paid over the reserve guarantee for that day.

Clear as mud?

Airfix 07-09-2017 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2391777)
Clear as mud?

That's pretty gnarly. Thanks for the explanation. Remarkably it makes sense. I've been pretty close to putting in a yellow slip for a nice juicy trip that started a day earlier than my reserve days. I'm really glad now that I never went through with it.

You'd think as long and complex as our contact is, that they could have taken a paragraph to explain this explicitly.

Thanks for saving me from finding out the hard way.

Airfix

FL370esq 07-09-2017 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Airfix (Post 2391853)
That's pretty gnarly. Thanks for the explanation. Remarkably it makes sense. I've been pretty close to putting in a yellow slip for a nice juicy trip that started a day earlier than my reserve days. I'm really glad now that I never went through with it.

You'd think as long and complex as our contact is, that they could have taken a paragraph to explain this explicitly.

Thanks for saving me from finding out the hard way.

Airfix

No worries. Glad it helped. 😊

Piklepausepull 07-09-2017 10:49 AM

..Shoulda seen it back in the dark ages when the contract was written in Swahili, or was it cyrillic?

This is English!

FL370esq 07-09-2017 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Piklepausepull (Post 2391919)
..Shoulda seen it back in the dark ages....

No kidding....back in the days when Doris would take 15 minutes out of new hire training to explain white slips, green slips, high yellows, low yellows, bow wave and spill back. We all pretty much had a 20 foot stare in a 10 foot room as she went on. 😩


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