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bender 08-11-2017 11:41 AM

On the plus side beer and food will be cheaper at a lot of these smaller layovers.

Jaww 08-11-2017 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2408599)
Are you referring to my entire post or ATL rerouting?

Not trying to pick a fight. You made good points but I think you are viewing it through a jaded lens. I have been subjected to what you spelled out many times. I just don't think it's more often than one trip a month. YMMV.

Bluto 08-12-2017 05:39 AM

For those keeping score, getting rerouted once a month is, in my experience, a lot! I've had a handful of reroutes in 10 years on the 73, 88, and ER. Just for comparison.

Jaww 08-12-2017 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 2409179)
For those keeping score, getting rerouted once a month is, in my experience, a lot! I've had a handful of reroutes in 10 years on the 73, 88, and ER. Just for comparison.

Fair enough. But most of those reroutes hardly ever mess with my layovers or duration of layover. And I hardly ever extend past my original checkout time (only once). I don't mind my 2-3 hour sits being used more economically and myself getting an extra hour or two of pay. One mans trash...

Han Solo 08-13-2017 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2409068)
Not trying to pick a fight. You made good points but I think you are viewing it through a jaded lens. I have been subjected to what you spelled out many times. I just don't think it's more often than one trip a month. YMMV.

Me neither. Your time on the 717 has skewed your picture. Outside of stormageddeon I haven't been rerouted once in the past year on primarily domestic ER ops, once a month is fairly substantial. International guys probably cant even spell reroute.

Btw, I'm happy to work more on a trip when it results in rr pay. My reroute luck mostly resulted in shorter layovers in less desirable locations for no extra $$$. What's the point of seniority based bidding when tracking can essentially abrogate your seniority beginning on leg 2 and it doesn't cost the company a dime in most cases if they get you home in time. Glad to hear it's 'only' once a month now. Even so, I think any deviation from your awarded trip should result in rr pay.

Rooster435 08-13-2017 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2410041)
Me neither. Your time on the 717 has skewed your picture. Outside of stormageddeon I haven't been rerouted once in the past year on primarily domestic ER ops, once a month is fairly substantial. International guys probably cant even spell reroute.

Btw, I'm happy to work more on a trip when it results in rr pay. My reroute luck mostly resulted in shorter layovers in less desirable locations for no extra $$$. What's the point of seniority based bidding when tracking can essentially abrogate your seniority beginning on leg 2 and it doesn't cost the company a dime in most cases if they get you home in time. Glad to hear it's 'only' once a month now. Even so, I think any deviation from your awarded trip should result in rr pay.

I transitioned over from the 717 to the ER about a year ago. I've been rerouted twice on the ER. On one the Capt hadn't been rerouted in over 15 years. When we got the reroute he said "I can just turn this down right?" Uhhh no.

Having said that I found that a majority of the reroutes on the 717 worked out in my favor. Defined as more pay, less work and/or better layover. Multiple reroutes on green slips which translate to triple pay.
But they can be exceedingly painful as well. Two Christmas's ago I got rerouted 4 times in one day. Culminated with a 10 hour layover in Tri Cities. Ho F?(;ing ho.

RamenNoodles 08-13-2017 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2408059)
The "good" thing about ATL 717 is at least as far as trips go, seniority hardly matters. The entire bid package is garbage so the best trips really aren't that much better than the worst.

One man's garbage is another's treasure! I left the ER because I hated the long legs, all nighters and uncommutable trips that my juniority could hold. Now I get any day off I want, I get to stretch my legs and walk around every hour, I often start trips late in the evening and finish before noon, and I usually get a "free" day off every trip during a 30 hour layover.

I think the 717 trips are outstanding!

asacimesp 08-13-2017 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by RamenNoodles (Post 2410129)
One man's garbage is another's treasure! I left the ER because I hated the long legs, all nighters and uncommutable trips that my juniority could hold. Now I get any day off I want, I get to stretch my legs and walk around every hour, I often start trips late in the evening and finish before noon, and I usually get a "free" day off every trip during a 30 hour layover.

I think the 717 trips are outstanding!

On the -88 all the "rules" go out the window. I've been rerouted quite a bit from Apr-Oct..... outside of those months almost never.


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