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Old 12-02-2017, 05:33 PM
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On reserve for the first time in a few years. I tried looking it up in the Comtract and Scheduling Reference Handbook but evidently reading comprehension is hard so I need some clarification.

I am on 9 days of reserve and at some point I will need a 30 hour rest. Assuming it is not on a layover and I am released to rest what are my obligations to answer the phone and when is earliest I can report for a trip or short call? I am also going under assumption I have not been assigned a short call or a trip prior to the rest period starting.

From reading the references it appears I do not have to answer the phone or acknowledge anything in icrew during that 30 hours and I revert to long call when I come off of the rest. So is the earliest I can be placed into a SC or trip 12 hours after?

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On reserve for the first time in a few years. I tried looking it up in the Comtract and Scheduling Reference Handbook but evidently reading comprehension is hard so I need some clarification.

I am on 9 days of reserve and at some point I will need a 30 hour rest. Assuming it is not on a layover and I am released to rest what are my obligations to answer the phone and when is earliest I can report for a trip or short call? I am also going under assumption I have not been assigned a short call or a trip prior to the rest period starting.

From reading the references it appears I do not have to answer the phone or acknowledge anything in icrew during that 30 hours and I revert to long call when I come off of the rest. So is the earliest I can be placed into a SC or trip 12 hours after?

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Going from memory here pretty sure you have zero obligation while on your 30 hour rest. After rest you are on long call - 12 hours minimum callout unless for some reason you were assigned SC prior to rest and acknowledged. They don't assign SC that far out so I think that is an academic only answer.

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You have NO obligation during the 30 hours, that's 117 stuff and less PWA. You will default to long call but they can place you on SC on the last day before you come off the rest, the earliest the SC could start is 1000 assuming the rest ends at 0000 (10 hours of prospective rest prior to assignment) and tack on the two hours of notification you're looking at a Noon report at the earliest.

You can look at your schedule 100,000 times and call Skeds 5,000 times during the rest but they can not contact you and you have no obligation to do anything.
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Shortcall start of 10 hours after the 30 is correct.
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Shortcall start of 10 hours after the 30 is correct.
You are NEVER on rest unless assigned rest. 10 hours prior to short call, 10 hours prior to a trip on long call. You will have a 30 hour rest assignment after 168 hours on reserve if you don't get it during a trip. Off days and vacation are assumed rest for GS and YS pickups.
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You are NEVER on rest unless assigned rest. 10 hours prior to short call, 10 hours prior to a trip on long call. You will have a 30 hour rest assignment after 168 hours on reserve if you don't get it during a trip. Off days and vacation are assumed rest for GS and YS pickups.
Maybe I'm wrong, pulling this from memory but isn't it 12 hours prior to short call and 12 hours prior to a trip you are released to rest?
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Maybe I'm wrong, pulling this from memory but isn't it 12 hours prior to short call and 12 hours prior to a trip you are released to rest?
12 prior on long call and at least 10 prior to beginning short call. Add the 2 hour call out on top of the 10 for SC and voila...12.
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Can you provide a reference requiring a "2 hour callout?" I'm not aware of one. Not saying it doesn't exist, I just can't find one but would like to be able to. Thanks!


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It’s 12hrs rest prior to either a SC or a rotation. I know this because I’m looking at my rest info on iCrew right now. (FAR 117 is 10hrs.)
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Can you provide a reference requiring a "2 hour callout?" I'm not aware of one. Not saying it doesn't exist, I just can't find one but would like to be able to. Thanks!


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I don't believe the 2 hours is in the PWA. It might be in the Scheduling Reference Handbook (SRH) but in either case it is pretty much what is normally expected for SC.

The contract says something like be in the vicinity and be promptly available for contact- which is what scheduling is really looking for. In NYC or LAX the traffic is a total wildcard which is why the 2 hours is not defined.

The 2 hour number is defined when it talks about not being "contactable" for the first 2 hours of SC but I believe you have to call scheduling ahead of time to let them know. Additionally if you are not contactable for the first 2 hours you are expected to be able to report at the end of the 2 hours.

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