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Old 01-20-2018, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2 View Post
777B or 350B living in base on reserve...its early retirement. Just have to be a QOL guy not seeking maximum pay...if pay is the motivator then go chase the GS as a NB capt
If you're a Jr 330B on rsv in base do you get used quite a bit?
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777B or 350B living in base on reserve...its early retirement. Just have to be a QOL guy not seeking maximum pay...if pay is the motivator then go chase the GS as a NB capt
In a nutshell, well said.
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Old 01-20-2018, 03:16 PM
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Would a very junior 330b be willing to chime in to say what quality of life is like in the summer vs the winter? Are you gone a lot in the summer or do reserves still not get used a lot
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
If you go 330, you will be doing international 100% of the time and if you don't like it you're stuck for 2 years.
You can get out of the seat lock for your first upgrade. So if he tried 330B and didn’t like it he could bid to 717A before the two years, but they’d take what’s left of the 330B lock on to the 717A seat lock.
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The ER still has some pretty good trip variety and does international and domestic which is nice because you can mix and match, or just avoid one or the other for the most part.
Not so much in DTW. I weighed heavily the option of DTW7erb before deciding upon the 330. The DTW ER seems to have the worst trip mix wrt international of all the bases. If you don't want international, as a fairly junior guy, you're stuck with quite a few 5 day domestics. Many of their trips spend entirely too much time on the east coast and running the Florida shuttle. 5 days may be great for commuters, but as a local I'm not a fan. The 73N had a better mix, obviously no real international.

As a 330 guy that sits short call from home, it's pretty awesome so far. Haven't seen a summer yet, but talking with some of the guys, they were used pretty extensively last summer. If able, I'll likely bid a line for greater flexibility. Reserve in the winter has been fairly cush. If you're junior, you have to be ok with AMS, AMS and more AMS. I try to avoid 6 days as they wear me out. 3 days are great and easily manageable wrt to your body clock.

Having ran the numbers, it's just not worth it to jump to 717A. After the tax man takes his cut, it really isn't much of a pay raise, for the responsibility. I would check out the 330B for a while, if you don't like it you could always jump to 717A. My guess is you won't want to after expericening the international lifestyle...provided you can handle the body clock stuff. I plan on staying until I have good seniority on the 320A/73NA.
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2 View Post
777B or 350B living in base on reserve...its early retirement. Just have to be a QOL guy not seeking maximum pay...if pay is the motivator then go chase the GS as a NB capt
Most qualified pilots on the 350 are going to be cruise dummies for the forseeable future. If there is actually a leg that doesn't have an LCP on it doing TOE, it will be rare. I would think that FOs for the most part won't see a landing for a long, long time. Recency in sims for everybody will be the norm for awhile. If you just want to ride around and get paid, the 350 is a good gig. If you want to operate the controls, notsomuch.
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Old 01-22-2018, 04:27 PM
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I took the upgrade on the 717A instead of 330B. Being junior on both I knew I would be working mostly all weekends and holidays anyways so why not get the additional $50/hr more? I'm one that goes for max pay when Im at work. I flew red-eyes for years and I had no interest in the international flying.

The "hard work" of the NB flying is greatly overrated in my opinion. Anyone who flew at the regionals had it way harder than any NB flying here. Just my opinion. I don't regret the decision for a second.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:36 PM
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I took the upgrade on the 717A instead of 330B. Being junior on both I knew I would be working mostly all weekends and holidays anyways so why not get the additional $50/hr more? I'm one that goes for max pay when Im at work. I flew red-eyes for years and I had no interest in the international flying.

The "hard work" of the NB flying is greatly overrated in my opinion. Anyone who flew at the regionals had it way harder than any NB flying here. Just my opinion. I don't regret the decision for a second.
Have you even flown international? Little easier of a red-eye since you get a few hour rest break...NB flying will be hard to go back to.
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Old 01-23-2018, 05:45 AM
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What about if one has to commute to reserve 330B?

How would QOL be in that case?

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Old 01-23-2018, 07:46 AM
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What about if one has to commute to reserve 330B?

How would QOL be in that case?

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Pretty easy. Just don’t bother commuting. Works 90% of the time
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