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Old 02-02-2018, 07:25 AM
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So it’s been a week since the C-series victory for Delta and Bombardier, is there any rumors/ info on when the next AE will come out? Will there be C- series positions offered? Are we still looking at March-April time frame? or will it come out earlier/ later? What’s your guess? What do “Top Men” say? Inquiring minds and all......
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Starting class in a few days. When does a newbie get to participate in an AE (asking specifically about base changes in same equipment, and also asking about bidding on a new aircraft like the C-Series?)
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So it’s been a week since the C-series victory for Delta and Bombardier, is there any rumors/ info on when the next AE will come out? Will there be C- series positions offered? Are we still looking at March-April time frame? or will it come out earlier/ later? What’s your guess? What do “Top Men” say? Inquiring minds and all......
If recent history is an example, expect it to be delayed 4 months, then cancelled.
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You will be allowed to bid on the next AE.
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If recent history is an example, expect it to be delayed 4 months, then cancelled.


You will be able to bid for the next AE. Not sure if you have to be on property when it comes out or before it closes. You will be able to change bases (assuming you can hold that). You will be seat locked into your first assigned aircraft for two years, unless you want to move to a base that does not have that aircraft (then it is one year to change aircraft and base). If you get displaced off something then seat lock is ignored.


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You will be able to bid for the next AE. Not sure if you have to be on property when it comes out or before it closes. You will be able to change bases (assuming you can hold that). You will be seat locked into your first assigned aircraft for two years, unless you want to move to a base that does not have that aircraft (then it is one year to change aircraft and base). If you get displaced off something then seat lock is ignored.


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You will be able to bid for the next AE. Not sure if you have to be on property when it comes out or before it closes. You will be able to change bases (assuming you can hold that). You will be seat locked into your first assigned aircraft for two years, unless you want to move to a base that does not have that aircraft (then it is one year to change aircraft and base). If you get displaced off something then seat lock is ignored.


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Before it closes. Assuming you have an iCrew logon...
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Old 02-02-2018, 08:37 AM
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Think the latest word is the C Series will be out to bid this fall. The Summer schedule has already been planned and that drives staffing needs. Crew Resources expects 5 bids and 1,000 new hire pilots.

Frankly the pin action is probably going to be on the 737 and A320 as we take delivery of something like 60 of the -900's and 321's.

Having spent a tiny amount of time looking at the C Series I really can't imagine many new hires preferring that to the A320 or 737. Because the Captain list moves slower there will be plenty of reasons for senior folks to sport bid seniority. If you think it is an RJ, it isn't. The avionics and systems are of a completely different generation and from what limited time I had with them I would take the Boeing or the Airbus in that order. Maybe I just hate the mouse. OK, I will admit it. I hate the idea of mice in the cockpit. I have better situational awareness seated in the first class lav than heads down scrolling, selecting, typing, scrolling and forgetting to enter, then repeating the process again. At least the MD88 gives you a big handle with tactile feedback and a 50/50 chance of the system actually doing what the book says it does.

If I was a new hire today I'd bid the 737 or the ER and enjoy the overnights. JMHO, YMMV ... if you are after the quick upgrade the A320 makes a lot of sense from a progression standpoint. Everyone is going to end up learning that airplane, or something similar. It is just the direction aviation is going since Boeing decided to become irrelevant to the future of aviation.
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Originally Posted by Drago View Post
You will be able to bid for the next AE. Not sure if you have to be on property when it comes out or before it closes. You will be able to change bases (assuming you can hold that). You will be seat locked into your first assigned aircraft for two years, unless you want to move to a base that does not have that aircraft (then it is one year to change aircraft and base). If you get displaced off something then seat lock is ignored.


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You can change aircraft and break the freeze if your aircraft is not available in that bid. It does not have to be not based there.
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Having spent a tiny amount of time looking at the C Series I really can't imagine many new hires preferring that to the A320 or 737.... If you think it is an RJ, it isn't. The avionics and systems are of a completely different generation and from what limited time I had with them I would take the Boeing or the Airbus in that order. Maybe I just hate the mouse. OK, I will admit it. I hate the idea of mice in the cockpit. I have better situational awareness seated in the first class lav than heads down scrolling, selecting, typing, scrolling and forgetting to enter, then repeating the process again. At least the MD88 gives you a big handle with tactile feedback and a 50/50 chance of the system actually doing what the book says it does.
Keep in mind many new hires are coming from regionals, where E175s are quickly becoming the new workhorse. The avionics, automation and system controls are more advanced than any Boeing or Airbus narrowbody. I'd wager they would feel more at home flying modern avionics compared to 6-packs, e6bs and sextants.
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