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LumberJack 03-22-2018 09:12 AM

Tax question for new hire training
 
I went through initial training with Delta last year. Is the time spent there treated the same as if I were on a trip?

Put another way, was each stretch of 4 or 5 days in ATL the same as if I were on a 4 or 5 day trip?

Normally I would say yes, but since they took GA income tax, I'm not entirely sure how the IRS treats this scenario.

full of luv 03-22-2018 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 2556448)
I went through initial training with Delta last year. Is the time spent there treated the same as if I were on a trip?

Put another way, was each stretch of 4 or 5 days in ATL the same as if I were on a 4 or 5 day trip?

Normally I would say yes, but since they took GA income tax, I'm not entirely sure how the IRS treats this scenario.

Most important question: Are you based in ATL?

Everyone is based in ATL for initial (at least according to IRS/Delta/Georgia).

After that, if you do training there but are based in DTW say, then it's per diem tax deductible as if you were on a trip.
If you are based in ATL, (even if you commute) then the IRS does not let you deduct ATL training events

If you live somewhere else, you should be able to file a "nonresident" Georgia tax return and get the money back that was withheld if it's worth your effort is another subject.

Tadertot 03-22-2018 12:24 PM

TurboTax got all my GA witholdings from training back in the first steps for my GA return. Super easy.

Go Cards go 03-22-2018 12:37 PM

You have to file a GA return. You’ll get it all back.

tunes 03-22-2018 01:53 PM

I only got like 85% of my GA taxes paid back a few years ago.


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Twin Wasp 03-22-2018 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2556493)

After that, if you do training there but are based in DTW say, then it's per diem tax deductible as if you were on a trip.
If you are based in ATL, (even if you commute) then the IRS does not let you deduct ATL training events

The per diem tax deduction went away under the new tax reform.

tennisguru 03-22-2018 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Go Cards go (Post 2556590)
You have to file a GA return. You’ll get it all back.

You'll get it all back assuming you paid state income tax in another state. If you live in a state with no state income tax then you'll be hit for a small GA tax bill, but you'll still get a refund of most of it.

sailingfun 03-22-2018 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Go Cards go (Post 2556590)
You have to file a GA return. You’ll get it all back.

I would talk with a tax man. Income is taxed based on where it is earned not where you live. There is one exception to this. If you are a transportation worker and you can’t determine any one state where you do 51 percent of your work you may be taxed based on residence. Guys living in FL but teaching in the sim found this out the hard way.

tennisguru 03-22-2018 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2556836)
I would talk with a tax man. Income is taxed based on where it is earned not where you live. There is one exception to this. If you are a transportation worker and you can’t determine any one state where you do 51 percent of your work you may be taxed based on residence. Guys living in FL but teaching in the sim found this out the hard way.

It is taxed where you work, but GA gives non residents a credit for taxes paid to another state. I'm not sure how it works for sim instructors since all their income is earned in GA, but for new hires with only a few months of earnings in GA that credit eliminates their GA liability.

gliderguider 03-23-2018 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 2556777)
The per diem tax deduction went away under the new tax reform.

Not until we file next year for this tax year 2018.


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