16apr AE SURPLUSES
04-16-2018, 05:20 PM
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 174
We have too many fleet types, period.
With us also taking the c series on, I predict many more surpluses in the next couple years.
In 5-10 years this airline will probably be
320/321 Neo
737900
C series
330 Neo
350
That’s not bad but to take pilots off the other fleets over the next 10 years is going to be very difficult. The c series does the exact same thing the 717 does and so much more so I would hope more are ordered and the 717 are gone as leases expire
Also the 777 didn’t have any departures in dtw for the last 2-3 years or so so this was inevitable after the 350 was placed there. Still sucks though.
With us also taking the c series on, I predict many more surpluses in the next couple years.
In 5-10 years this airline will probably be
320/321 Neo
737900
C series
330 Neo
350
That’s not bad but to take pilots off the other fleets over the next 10 years is going to be very difficult. The c series does the exact same thing the 717 does and so much more so I would hope more are ordered and the 717 are gone as leases expire
Also the 777 didn’t have any departures in dtw for the last 2-3 years or so so this was inevitable after the 350 was placed there. Still sucks though.
04-16-2018, 05:30 PM
#22
Rerouted On Weekends
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: 717A
Posts: 2,937
Originally Posted by Scooter432
The 88As are in for a rude awakening. The ones I know are either in denial or something and maintain they will keep an A spot somewhere. It won’t be happening in ATL that’s for sure.
04-16-2018, 05:51 PM
#24
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,547
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
It seems foolish to displace off of the M88 now, rather than wait til the CS100 bid is posted. I think DAL just bought themselves more training events than necessary.
04-16-2018, 05:55 PM
#25
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Originally Posted by Peoloto
None of the 50 bottom ATL 88 Captains can hold anything else as Captain, MAYBE a few can hold NYC 717. If a senior guy wants to try to voluntary displace he would only get the bidding power of those at the bottom that he would be taking the displacement from allowing them to stay. So basically unless the company wants to add these Captains to other Captain categories they better get ready to swing gear again.
04-16-2018, 06:15 PM
#26
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
It seems foolish to displace off of the M88 now, rather than wait til the CS100 bid is posted. I think DAL just bought themselves more training events than necessary.
04-16-2018, 06:17 PM
#27
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm sure there are planners pulling their hair out because the cs is delayed and they need to do their... resourcing.
04-16-2018, 06:29 PM
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 1,216
Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
ATLM88CAPT 50
DTW777CAPT 10
DTW777F/O 16
I thought it's a little better than expected. I heard up to 60 ATL ER As and 120 ATL M88 As could have been displaced.
Where would this folks end up, any ideas?
How soon8
DTW777CAPT 10
DTW777F/O 16
I thought it's a little better than expected. I heard up to 60 ATL ER As and 120 ATL M88 As could have been displaced.
Where would this folks end up, any ideas?
How soon8
04-16-2018, 09:17 PM
#29
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 28
Originally Posted by Jaww
I think you don’t understand why many of us bid the 88. We knew it was gonna be like this but wanted to make a money grab while we could. It’s not for everyone but I don’t think the bottom 50 are ignorant (or were) that this was likely to happen. I have no problem slinging gear again and will enjoy seniority again after making some Xmas money.
I find it fascinating the guys I run into that act as if I’m entitled for bidding 88A and getting it junior.
Some of the guys going through are 20 year retired military, far from your “millennial” “new rude awakening” pilot.
The fact is simple, we saw a quick money grab and knew it would be short lived. For 4 weeks of VA Ave at 88A rate and $6k-$7k/ month difference; avg displaced 88A is going to make around $30-40k extra in 4-6 months + DC + PS. This was simply a money grab.
