Dirtdiver

Until the other base starts putting in OBWSs!

Herkflyr

The issue there is, an IA, by definition is something that you DON'T want to do, at least officially. Scheduling is literally reaching out and contacting you on days off when you had no request in to fly. For every guy getting an IA who is happy about it (due to double pay regardless of green slip trigger), there is no doubt another who is furious because he had important plans that were wrecked due to the inverse assignment.

Also, scheduling has to start at the most junior pilot and work up when getting into IAs, versus starting at the most senior guy and working down, as is the case with GS.

mainlineAF

I’m not DL but they really can’t force you to fly on your day off.

Scheduling: “Hey billy we need you to show in 4 hours for departure. We know it’s your day off, but sorry”

Billy: “sorry, I’m 8 hours from base on vacation”

What are they going to do? If you’re not on reserve who is currently on duty they can’t make you come in.

Dash8widget

If you’ve had important plans wrecked due to an IA, you’re doing it wrong - just sayin

Herkflyr

All it takes is for the gate agent to meet the airplane on the last leg of the previous trip. "Guess what? We've got an offer you can't refuse. See you tomorrow when you check in."

To be fair that is rare and now with "robocalls" often IAs are announced via robocalls that guys listen to on their voice mail.

But the gate agent scenario I just posted is contractually legal and HAS happened here.

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FL370esq

Sounds like someone in CR either misspoke (senior vs. older) or misunderstood the PWA.

22.E.13.b contains the following "Exception" with regard to bypass of training:

"The Company may not bypass a pilot within two years of the date he reaches the regulatory age limit for pilots unless the Company has bypassed all pilots holding an AE to the same category with: (1) the same award date; (2) the same training requirements; and (3) earlier normal retirement dates."

As previously stated, seniority does not factor in. The issue arises based upon what retirement date (if any) the company uses to establish a training bypass for that AE award.

First off, this bypass exception only applies to the same category (i.e., NYC7ERA which means you do not look at Captains who were awarded the 7ER to ATL, DTW, MSP, etc), same award date (bypass exception only applies to that AE award, you do not look at a prior or subsequent AE award) and the same training requirements which means, for example using the DTW350A category, that an A330 Capt awarded the 350 may be sent to training (conversion course) while a 7ER Capt awarded the 350 (who would need a full AQP qual course) could be bypassed even though the 7ER Capt. has a sheduled retirement date later than the 330 Capt.

Lots of variables to consider when looking at who gets bypassed.

waldo135

That’s the way it’s supposed to work. In reality, a robo-call goes out to everyone not in rest or on a trip. First one who calls gets it. At least that’s how it went for months and months on the 717

mainlineAF

Yea true but an extension is different and not possible to get out of.

I was referring to a cold call on an off day saying you need to come in and fly.

3 green

Simple soulution. When you see 404-773-3575 don't answer your phone. Let them leave a messsage..Starting with junior guys and working up on an IA could be a problem, but it looks like they are so short staffed their is plenty of extra flying to go around right now.

JamesBond

There was no single engine work on the training flights.