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Old 04-26-2018, 10:22 AM
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I'm a bit late to the party as the discussion has already drifted from the original topic but after I read about our 350's having performance issues, I asked around on another discussion board and several 350 pilots told me the airplane performed well and as advertised. Only the first 3 350-900 were overweight and even those were fixed before delivery. Lax-Syd is under the advertised range for the 350-900 (so is atl-Jnb) and the figures published by Airbus imply a cabin with 325 seats and I believe we only have 306 seats. Lastly, I heard from a well informed person on the 4th floor that we need to (and we apparently will) purchase some sort of unlocking software from Airbus and we will then be able to connect the dots as desired/expected. (I.e: Lax-Syd, Atl-Jnb) So it appears that this is the issue with our airplanes and that it will be fixed.
I was told the problem with the A350 doing LAX-SYD was it won't carry enough alternate fuel for using Brisbane as an alternate, which is required because SYD doesn't have a Cat 3 runway.

It will fly LAX- SYD, but it won't fly there and then fly up to Brisbane. There's not a whole lot of divert options out that way, just a lot of ocean thus the need for Brisbane as an alternate.

Joburg has a few more alternates available on both ends, with several islands along the way. Not sure why the A350 isn't doing ATL-JNB right now if it can do it. I know we do haul a lot of cargo out of JNB along with 17 hours worth of fuel on the 777. Maybe the A350 can't haul that much cargo?
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
I was told the problem with the A350 doing LAX-SYD was it won't carry enough alternate fuel for using Brisbane as an alternate, which is required because SYD doesn't have a Cat 3 runway.

It will fly LAX- SYD, but it won't fly there and then fly up to Brisbane. There's not a whole lot of divert options out that way, just a lot of ocean thus the need for Brisbane as an alternate.

Joburg has a few more alternates available on both ends, with several islands along the way. Not sure why the A350 isn't doing ATL-JNB right now if it can do it. I know we do haul a lot of cargo out of JNB along with 17 hours worth of fuel on the 777. Maybe the A350 can't haul that much cargo?
There's a closer alternate, but we don't use it much. That route has a constant fuel v. cargo with Brisbane. I haven't seen less than 1000/3 for the last 1.5 years. Deviating for weather is the only unknown, and metro sends us through quite a bit. Don't think we'll see a twin engine like the LR for some time.
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The 350 may not be overwhelming, but the airplane is making a lot of people very wealthy. Go pull up the trip assignment info. Greenslips, conflicts, you name it. Every day. They just deadheaded 5 pilots to AMS the other day, and then deadheaded them back home. All on greenslips. Crazy money. Must be nice!
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I am hearing more than a few broke 250K in the first quarter with PS.
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Old 04-28-2018, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite View Post
The 350 may not be overwhelming, but the airplane is making a lot of people very wealthy. Go pull up the trip assignment info. Greenslips, conflicts, you name it. Every day. They just deadheaded 5 pilots to AMS the other day, and then deadheaded them back home. All on greenslips. Crazy money. Must be nice!
They're going to order their RV12s already finished.
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They're going to order their RV12s already finished.
With a fancy autopilot, because they have forgotten how to fly.
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With a fancy autopilot, because they have forgotten how to fly.
And the 12 because it's a nose dragger, because they definitely forgot how to fly
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Originally Posted by flyallnite View Post
The 350 may not be overwhelming, but the airplane is making a lot of people very wealthy. Go pull up the trip assignment info. Greenslips, conflicts, you name it. Every day. They just deadheaded 5 pilots to AMS the other day, and then deadheaded them back home. All on greenslips. Crazy money. Must be nice!
Yep Ive been browsing through the Daily Trip Coverage for those guys. Unreal. Good for them. Same thing is going to happen when the C Series comes online because they will wait too long to train those guys too. (Although at a much lower pay scale)
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Not that it means much but:

ATL-ICN in travelnet says the flight is "consistently" payload optimized and looking at yesterdays flight...it left with open seats (no non-revs cleared).

ATL-ICN is listed at 7,152 miles. ATL-JNB is listed at 8,439. Considering JNB is about 100 feet higher then Denver in elevation...are we sure the A350 can make it without leaving with 50+ empty seats every time?
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Originally Posted by duder View Post
Yep Ive been browsing through the Daily Trip Coverage for those guys. Unreal. Good for them. Same thing is going to happen when the C Series comes online because they will wait too long to train those guys too. (Although at a much lower pay scale)
Good for them. In my career the company has invariably screwed up the manning/training on a new jet. They don't pay the $ to get "ahead" of the problem knowing they will pay later. Probably did the math and saved a nickle somewhere. OFG
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