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duder 05-08-2018 04:58 PM

I bid NB A last MOAB and went to training within weeks of the bids closing and then there were -88 A's that needed the short course upgrade and they didn't go for almost 9 months. Impossible to guess. Absolutely bid what you want and want what you bid because anything is possible. I don't see the company stopping the annual 365 day MOAB's anytime soon because it gives them a tremendous amount of flexibility.

I think junior guys and gals who contemplated upgrade last summer and didn't pull the trigger will regret it because others aren't going to wait anymore if they only get basically one chance a year for an A slot. The next time the upgrade time will drop again is a few AE's after the C-Series are introduced.

buckleyboy 05-08-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 2589435)
Not exactly sure what defines a “Moab” but closing the Msp 88, opening msp 330, adding near 180 a and b 320/737 to msp, closing Dtw 777, and opening a new c100 in New York seems like it could be a pretty big bid.

Is it official that the next 88A displacements will be from the MSP 88 shutdown?

80ktsClamp 05-08-2018 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by buckleyboy (Post 2589464)
Is it official that the next 88A displacements will be from the MSP 88 shutdown?

Yep, with 1:1 73NA/320A replacing the displaced positions... also opening MSP330 (again).

Xray678 05-08-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2589517)
Yep, with 1:1 73NA/320A replacing the displaced positions... also opening MSP330 (again).

While I agree there will be 1:1 73N/320 positions replacing the displaced positions, I suspect they won’t all be in MSP.

caddis 05-08-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2589536)
While I agree there will be 1:1 73N/320 positions replacing the displaced positions, I suspect they won’t all be in MSP.

Per Crew Resources the M88/90 in MSP will be offset by 73 and 320 slots in MSP at 1:1

mispoken 05-08-2018 06:51 PM

I've had my eyes on 330b for a bit and perhaps I can hold it in this next big bid. I could have in the last MOAB. My concern would be leaving a B position where I sit about 75% and moving to 99% on the 330. The reason for my concern is the last AE where displacements happened. Good reason for concern or am I not seeing that clearly?

boog123 05-08-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by caddis (Post 2589546)
Per Crew Resources the M88/90 in MSP will be offset by 73 and 320 slots in MSP at 1:1


Yes, but there will be other pilots coming from other bases/fleets to those positions also..

Xray678 05-08-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by caddis (Post 2589546)
Per Crew Resources the M88/90 in MSP will be offset by 73 and 320 slots in MSP at 1:1

That would require over 180 captain positions in MSP between the two fleets. I don’t see it, and I’ve seen nothing from CR indicating 1:1 (not saying they haven’t said it but I haven’t seen it.

I see someone else beat me to this thought....so giving him full credit....but keep in mind a lot of guys from other bases will bid back to MSP. No way the bottom MSP captain after the next AE is even close to being as junior as the current junior MSP captain.

PS...edited to say here is what I found from CR “M88 displacements will be absorbed with incremental positions on the MSP 73N, MSP 320, and the new MSP 330 base”.

Incremental..not 1:1. and sounds like they are including the 330 vacancies in the positions available to absorb the displacements.

tunes 05-08-2018 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by caddis (Post 2589546)
Per Crew Resources the M88/90 in MSP will be offset by 73 and 320 slots in MSP at 1:1



Yeah but no guarantee those guys will fill those slots....Probably likely since msp is so senior...But not guaranteed


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Baradium 05-08-2018 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2589560)
That would require over 180 captain positions in MSP between the two fleets. I don’t see it, and I’ve seen nothing from CR indicating 1:1 (not saying they haven’t said it but I haven’t seen it.

I see someone else beat me to this thought....so giving him full credit....but keep in mind a lot of guys from other bases will bid back to MSP. No way the bottom MSP captain after the next AE is even close to being as junior as the current junior MSP captain.

PS...edited to say here is what I found from CR “M88 displacements will be absorbed with incremental positions on the MSP 73N, MSP 320, and the new MSP 330 base”.

Incremental..not 1:1. and sounds like they are including the 330 vacancies in the positions available to absorb the displacements.

That's what incremental means. That they'll offer the same number of positions as they reduce the -88 ones.


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