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Originally Posted by badflaps
(Post 3170625)
Y'all are talking about a market that has tripled in a short period of time, I'm not sure I would count on that kind of performance in the future, especially with the coming economy.(Diminished tax base, job loss,etc.)
As for options in 2020, long calls have been the star, but as I said above those are the riskiest ones. For selling premium, which is the longevity play, 2020 hasn’t been great as volatility has been surprisingly low. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3170554)
For domestic stocks I just use a stock screener thru Finbox and check that at least weekly. Slim pickings these days compared to March. I also follow other Net Net investors on Twitter to identify under the radar/beyond screens ideas.
For international Net Nets I'm focused on Japan and use kenkyoinvesting.com's free screener to identify and KaijiNet/JapanExpress evaluate the Balance sheet and cashflow statements. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by badflaps
(Post 3170625)
Y'all are talking about a market that has tripled in a short period of time, I'm not sure I would count on that kind of performance in the future, especially with the coming economy.(Diminished tax base, job loss,etc.)
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3170653)
Which market? Oh you mean the US market. You know there is a whole lot more to the Global equities market than just the US right? :)
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Originally Posted by mispoken
(Post 3170650)
will explore. I assume these companies have no options or if they do, they’re illiquid?
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Originally Posted by mispoken
(Post 3170645)
please note my above post. I’ve been tracking my performance since 2008 and I have returned north of 20% on an annualized basis. 2020 has definitely accounted for a decent amount of that, perhaps 2-3%.
As for options in 2020, long calls have been the star, but as I said above those are the riskiest ones. For selling premium, which is the longevity play, 2020 hasn’t been great as volatility has been surprisingly low. The S&P has returned north of 20% per year since 2008... |
I'm not as optimistic as you guys, I still have my ration card from WW2. (My parents stole all my meat coupons, all I had left was veggie tickets.)
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
(Post 3170680)
The S&P has returned north of 20% per year since 2008...
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
(Post 3170680)
The S&P has returned north of 20% per year since 2008...
12.5% since November 2008 14.75% if you reinvested dividends dont use my link as your sole source; dig in elsewhere and find if your research jives with this. I always run my annualized returns against VFINX which matches very closely to the above link. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3170687)
20% compounded annually? Don't have the numbers in front of me but I don't think so
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk Correct, I wasn’t compounding annually. I didn’t know if either of you were in your calculations.
Originally Posted by mispoken
(Post 3170689)
this is not a correct statement. Start here and play with the numbers. https://dqydj.com/sp-500-return-calculator/
12.5% since November 2008 14.75% if you reinvested dividends dont use my link as your sole source; dig in elsewhere and find if your research jives with this. I always run my annualized returns against VFINX which matches very closely to the above link. The S&P opened 2009 at 931.80. It closed today at 3647.49. That’s 23% average return per year on a year-by-year basis, not compounding. Are you saying you took the same 931.80 in 2008 and have turned it into 8,300+? |
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