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seafeye 06-16-2018 02:00 PM

Reserve question
 
How is the reserve pay calculated?
Are you paid or credited per day or do you get a fix hourly amount?
Example:
4 hours/day credit
Or
76 hours/month?

If you fly just 1 day a month. And it’s an 8 hour day. Will you get your 76 hours plus 4 hours over the day credit?
Can you break guarantee on reserve without flying on your days off?

WhiskeyDelta 06-16-2018 04:01 PM

Reserve question
 
If reserve guarantee is 76 hours, then all flying and soft credit time for which you are assigned a trip goes towards that monthly guarantee. In our system, once your accumulated credit exceeds reserve guarantee, you’re no longer obligated to be on call the rest of the bid period. If you want to work above guarantee, you have to request to do so via a yellow slip and even then you’re limited to our Average Line Value plus 15 hours.

WhiskeyDelta 06-16-2018 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 2615728)
If you fly just 1 day a month. And it’s an 8 hour day. Will you get your 76 hours plus 4 hours over the day credit?

No



Can you break guarantee on reserve without flying on your days off?

Yes, all depends on the credit values for the trips you get.






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crewdawg 06-16-2018 04:17 PM

Reserve guarantee is based on average line value (ALV) - 2 hours. This changes month-to-month and varies by your seat. It will be no less than 72 and no more than 80 hours in a given month. For line construction purposes, a reserve day is valued at reserve guarantee/days in the bid month. After the scheduled are built, each reserve days is worth reserve guarantee/# of reserve days in the month.

All trips, even if you pick up a trips on your off days, just count toward your monthly guarantee. Once you've hit the reserve guarantee, you are considered "FULL," and done for the month. However, if you're 1 minute short, they can fly you up to ALV + 15 hours.

180ToAJ 06-18-2018 09:48 AM

Another Reserve Question
 
Let’s say you’re on reserve from 1300-0100. You are released at 0100 without a call, but can they call you at 0030 for a 0230 report? What about calling at 0030 for a 0530 report?

iaflyer 06-18-2018 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by 180ToAJ (Post 2616722)
Let’s say you’re on reserve from 1300-0100. You are released at 0100 without a call, but can they call you at 0030 for a 0230 report? What about calling at 0030 for a 0530 report?

They can call you at 0030 for a 0230 report, all that has to occur is for you to have the PWA duty required for the first duty period. You might be able to do the 0530 report depending on what it is and you the duty time as well. (it might be a short deadhead)

You duty day doesn't end at 0100, just your call-out window does.

Kjazz130 06-18-2018 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by 180ToAJ (Post 2616722)
Let’s say you’re on reserve from 1300-0100. You are released at 0100 without a call, but can they call you at 0030 for a 0230 report? What about calling at 0030 for a 0530 report?

The ALPA part 117 calculator app is great for running these scenarios.

deadseal 06-28-2018 09:55 AM

Reserve question
Going from Sunday xday to Monday on call. Assigned a trip for 830pm Monday(assigned at normal time Sunday morning). Am I still on longcall from 1201am Monday until I go into rest for the 830pm report Monday night? Looking at a 30 hours in 7 issue. Thanks!

overspeed 06-28-2018 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2623798)
Reserve question
Going from Sunday xday to Monday on call. Assigned a trip for 830pm Monday(assigned at normal time Sunday morning). Am I still on longcall from 1201am Monday until I go into rest for the 830pm report Monday night? Looking at a 30 hours in 7 issue. Thanks!

Yes—> more words etc.

buckleyboy 06-28-2018 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2623798)
Reserve question
Going from Sunday xday to Monday on call. Assigned a trip for 830pm Monday(assigned at normal time Sunday morning). Am I still on longcall from 1201am Monday until I go into rest for the 830pm report Monday night? Looking at a 30 hours in 7 issue. Thanks!

Yes, unless it is designated as a rest time. You can see this from the schedule menu in icrew or (better option) view your calendar in the new crew app thingy. It will show if you are in rest. Easier to find and makes more sense.

Jaww 06-29-2018 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2623798)
Reserve question
Going from Sunday xday to Monday on call. Assigned a trip for 830pm Monday(assigned at normal time Sunday morning). Am I still on longcall from 1201am Monday until I go into rest for the 830pm report Monday night? Looking at a 30 hours in 7 issue. Thanks!

Did you YS that? That’s an early report for your first day on if you didn’t ask for it.

m3113n1a1 06-29-2018 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2624370)
Did you YS that? That’s an early report for your first day on if you didn’t ask for it.

830pm isn't early? To the OP they may have released you to rest, but if not, then yes you are on call from 1201 until 10hrs prior to report.

deadseal 06-29-2018 06:40 AM

I did not ys, I called crew scheduling and they said that since the last day of the 2nd trip I was assigned is a dead head it doesn’t count. Bottom line is that I land back in base at 157 hours of straight duty. So when I get to 168 I won’t have 30 hours in lookback. I guess I’ll call alpa today since scheduling told me to go pound sand

Rooster435 06-29-2018 07:37 AM

Hard to follow you.

What second trip are you talking about?

If you land in base at 157 hours then what’s the issue? You just can’t start another FDP unless you satisfy the 30 in 168 rest requirement.

deadseal 06-29-2018 07:47 AM

So what you are saying is that you can fly up to 167 hours without 30 hours of rest?

Myfingershurt 06-29-2018 07:56 AM

I believe that is what he’s saying. When you get to hour 168 you’ll be on rest so as long as they’re not trying to assign you something else before your get 30 hours of rest you’re legal.

tennisguru 06-29-2018 07:59 AM

You can't be on an FDP without looking back over the past 168 hours and finding a 30 hour break. A DH only duty period does not qualify as an FDP, hence why there's no look back issue.

deadseal 06-29-2018 08:03 AM

copy thanks

Jaww 06-29-2018 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2624393)
830pm isn't early? To the OP they may have released you to rest, but if not, then yes you are on call from 1201 until 10hrs prior to report.

I thought he said previous day was an X-Day. What am I missing? 0830 is early as that would be the first day in a block of reserve days.

tennisguru 06-29-2018 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2624510)
I thought he said previous day was an X-Day. What am I missing? 0830 is early as that would be the first day in a block of reserve days.

You start LC at midnight immediately following an X day. While you can't be given anything that starts before noon you most definitely can be called by 8:30 am to report at 8:30 pm.

m3113n1a1 06-29-2018 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2624510)
I thought he said previous day was an X-Day. What am I missing? 0830 is early as that would be the first day in a block of reserve days.

2030 is when his trip starts.

Jaww 06-29-2018 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2624591)
2030 is when his trip starts.

Yup. That was the disconnect. Thanks.

Rooster435 07-05-2018 04:12 AM

Another reserve question.

Sitting reserve for the first time in a while so I’m a little cloudy on all the intricacies.

I was flown into a Golden X day due to exceeeding block limits. I see reroute pay on my time card but do I get that x day back somewhere?

HTBH 07-05-2018 08:31 AM

Another Reserve question for the masses and the experts....

If you pick up a GS at the start of the months you immediately get PB days. Can you move on call days you have later in the month into those PB days or are you not able to do that? I'm trying to move two on call days at the end of the month and one day at the end of a five day block I have in the middle of the month into three days on call where the PB days are. Keeps telling me I'm violating grouping requirements. Even though I'd end up with a three day block, a four day block and a five day block left if I do it.

deadseal 07-05-2018 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by HTBH (Post 2628204)
Another Reserve question for the masses and the experts....

If you pick up a GS at the start of the months you immediately get PB days. Can you move on call days you have later in the month into those PB days or are you not able to do that? I'm trying to move two on call days at the end of the month and one day at the end of a five day block I have in the middle of the month into three days on call where the PB days are. Keeps telling me I'm violating grouping requirements. Even though I'd end up with a three day block, a four day block and a five day block left if I do it.

Sometimes you have to move days one at a time if you are splitting them up into 2 different spots.

Tummy 07-05-2018 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 2628054)
Another reserve question.

Sitting reserve for the first time in a while so I’m a little cloudy on all the intricacies.

I was flown into a Golden X day due to exceeeding block limits. I see reroute pay on my time card but do I get that x day back somewhere?

I'm not sure what you mean by "exceeding block limits." I think 23 S. 9. will help you if you were rerouted, and 23 S. 12. will help you if you intruded on your golden day as a result of late operations.

If a reroute, you should be given nine hours free of duty upon your release at the completion of your rotation. Your X day(s) will then begin immediately following the nine-hour period and will continue until you have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in your scheduled X-day block.

If late operations, your X-day(s) begin upon your release at the completion of your rotation and will continue until you have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in your scheduled X-day block.

There are examples following both 23 S. 9. and 23 S. 12.

Both sections talk about reserve pilots flying into X days as opposed to golden X days, so I may be wrong, but hopefully this points you in the right direction. I've had to call crew scheduling to get my X days sorted on my last three consecutive green slips and the last time that I was flown into X days as a reserve pilot. I'm sure you'll have to call them as well.

Rooster435 07-05-2018 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Tummy (Post 2628305)
I'm not sure what you mean by "exceeding block limits." I think 23 S. 9. will help you if you were rerouted, and 23 S. 12. will help you if you intruded on your golden

If a reroute, you should be given nine hours free of duty upon your release at the completion of your rotation. Your X day(s) will then begin immediately following the nine-hour period and will continue until you have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in your scheduled X-day block.

If late operations, your X-day(s) begin upon your release at the completion of your rotation and will continue until you have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in your scheduled X-day block.

There are examples following both 23 S. 9. and 23 S. 12.

Both sections talk about reserve pilots flying into X days as opposed to golden X days, so I may be wrong, but hopefully this points you in the right direction. I've had to call crew scheduling to get my X days sorted on my last three consecutive green slips and the last time that I was flown into X days as a reserve pilot. I'm sure you'll have to call them as well.

Thanks, I’ll take a look at those sections. Our last leg would have taken us over the FAR 117 FDP block limit (9 hours in our case) so they pulled us off and we dead headed home the next morning.

Denny Crane 07-05-2018 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by HTBH (Post 2628204)
Another Reserve question for the masses and the experts....

If you pick up a GS at the start of the months you immediately get PB days. Can you move on call days you have later in the month into those PB days or are you not able to do that? I'm trying to move two on call days at the end of the month and one day at the end of a five day block I have in the middle of the month into three days on call where the PB days are. Keeps telling me I'm violating grouping requirements. Even though I'd end up with a three day block, a four day block and a five day block left if I do it.

It sounds like you want to move an X day to cover a PB day? You cannot do that. What you can do is move your X days to follow a PB day. You can also move the PB days to some other on call days in the month as long as X day groupings are not violated.

Now if you hav a PR day (partial reserve), you’re kinda hosed. You cannot move X days to follow a PR day and you cannot move it either.

As was suggested, you might try moving one day at a time.

Denny

Denny Crane 07-05-2018 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 2628054)
Another reserve question.

Sitting reserve for the first time in a while so I’m a little cloudy on all the intricacies.

I was flown into a Golden X day due to exceeeding block limits. I see reroute pay on my time card but do I get that x day back somewhere?

Give scheduling a call. If you don’t like the answer, call the union. If you still don’t like the answer, research in the contract or............consider it a lesson learned.

Denny

Gspeed 07-06-2018 09:35 AM

How does one move a PB day? Will iCrew accept that entry and treat it the same as moving an X day? Or do you have to call Scheduling?

Denny Crane 07-06-2018 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 2628969)
How does one move a PB day? Will iCrew accept that entry and treat it the same as moving an X day? Or do you have to call Scheduling?

It’s been awhile since I’ve done it but, yes, I think that’s how you do it. The problem comes when you have a PR day at the end of PB days. That pretty much makes it darn near impossible to move PB days.

Denny

vyperdriver 07-12-2018 10:10 AM

I would almost beg the negotiating committee to fix the ridiculous manner reserve pilots are managed with respect to being able to figure out EXACTLY where you are in the probability of being utilized. The bucket, silo, days available, whatever ouija board is insane. Why not a very simple to see a rolling list from the number 1 guy to the number 35 guy. I don't mind the commute, but whenever you call crew scheduling to try and reasonably discern probability of utilization, it seems like there is never a clear answer, it's always a long "weeelllll it just depends how you look at it." Even at my podunct old regional you knew with reasonable clarity where you were. The time, energy and expense involved, especially in Commuting to NYC can be daunting at times. it would be an awesome QOL improvement to know with some assurance you have a high or very low probability of utilization. A call out system in which commuters might be able to use the 12hr call out a little more to their advantage would be great. It would take a big brained individual to figure it out, but it would be nice. Rant out

Gspeed 07-12-2018 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 2633341)
I would almost beg the negotiating committee to fix the ridiculous manner reserve pilots are managed with respect to being able to figure out EXACTLY where you are in the probability of being utilized. The bucket, silo, days available, whatever ouija board is insane. Why not a very simple to see a rolling list from the number 1 guy to the number 35 guy. I don't mind the commute, but whenever you call crew scheduling to try and reasonably discern probability of utilization, it seems like there is never a clear answer, it's always a long "weeelllll it just depends how you look at it." Even at my podunct old regional you knew with reasonable clarity where you were. The time, energy and expense involved, especially in Commuting to NYC can be daunting at times. it would be an awesome QOL improvement to know with some assurance you have a high or very low probability of utilization. A call out system in which commuters might be able to use the 12hr call out a little more to their advantage would be great. It would take a big brained individual to figure it out, but it would be nice. Rant out

+1,000,000

It says something when even a penny pinching operation like a regional can get it right.


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