Dues rate for executive inactive members is 1.45%.

And the answer to his last sentence is?????

No idea, I know at many airlines the VP of flight ops resign from the union and pay no dues. At Delta it’s long been a tradition for the VP of ops to pay full dues.

APA? Can't remember if they make them resign from APA.

Again this is not a raise. It's our requirement for inactivity. My opinion is it should be 0 with their immediate removal from the union, but obviously I'm outnumbered here. Tradition at trade unions is to remove members who no longer practice the trade and actively seek and hold management positions. Explain to me why our senior managers should be allowed to be union members.

https://aflcio.org/about/our-unions-...iliated-unions

Here's a list of unions when you find one that has a company VP as a member, please let me know.

What you would probably end up with if you want to go that route is management hiring management pilots off the street. I prefer that they come from our seniority list.

I don't care where they come from as long as they aren't part of our union. We have to assume they are hired for their ability to do their (management) job. Cost control, efficiency, productivity are their job not making pilots QOL better or paying them more. IN FACT THEY SIT ACROSS THE TABLE DOING ALL THEY CAN TO KEEP THIS TO A MINIMUM. But yea, they should be honorary union members. :rolleyes:

How far down do you feel this should go? Do you want your next checkride to be from a guy hired off the street 3 months prior as a checkairman? Ask the UPS guys how they like that!

The disciplinary measuring stick has been used before. Are LCAs managers? I would make it Chief pilots and above but our union has it as close to right as it will get for here, I think.

That’s how most of us felt. Having the option of returning to the line allowed them to say No to upper management and back a pilot. A few did just that.