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Old 12-07-2018, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Beaverbeliever View Post
This is great. Do you have similar information for Captains?
Any idea what the junior line numbers by base/seat/type are?
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn View Post
Bases and jr FO for a new guys looking in: *nh=new hire, y=year, m=months

ATL- 777(10y), 330(8y), 764(4y), 767/757(15m), 320(11m), 737(6m), MD88(nh), 717(nh)
CVG- 737(nh)
DTW- 350(8y), 330(3y), 767/757(11m), 320(10m), 737(12m), 717(nh)
LAX- 777(3y), 767/757(7m), 737(nh), 717(7m)
MSP- 330(10y), 767/757(2y), 320(1y), 737(2y)
NYC:JFK/LGA/EWR- 330(3y), 764(2y), 767/757(nh), 320(nh), 737(nh), 717(nh), 220(nh)
SEA: 330(7y), 767/757(12m), 737(nh)
SLC: 767/757(10m), 320(9m), 737(nh), 220(nh)
Is this still valid?
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Old 12-07-2018, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingmau5 View Post
Is this still valid?
Nobody's been hired since then. New hire and months in base have aged. Obviously some shifting around here and there, but it's still ballpark.
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:37 AM
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I got hired in apr 1996 and cannot hold Capt A320 in ATL....not even reserve...A position will return to 10 years once the MD-88's are gone
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by astrojet View Post
I got hired in apr 1996 and cannot hold Capt A320 in ATL....not even reserve...A position will return to 10 years once the MD-88's are gone
Atl320 plug is 9400ish. That makes a 2007 hire able to hold it. Apr96 on the “bad” side of the merger DOH puts you at 5500, which gives you atl320a with 100 beneath you.
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
Atl320 plug is 9400ish. That makes a 2007 hire able to hold it. Apr96 on the “bad” side of the merger DOH puts you at 5500, which gives you atl320a with 100 beneath you.
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by astrojet View Post
I got hired in apr 1996 and cannot hold Capt A320 in ATL....not even reserve...A position will return to 10 years once the MD-88's are gone


That’s not even close to accurate. Now if you were to say that April 1996 couldn’t get an award to ATL320A on the last couple of bids, that would be accurate as the few spots available have been gobbled up by senior pilots bailing off the MD88. There have been bids over the last several years where an April 1996 pilot could have easily been awarded ATL320A, if you chose to bid it.
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly View Post
That’s not even close to accurate. Now if you were to say that April 1996 couldn’t get an award to ATL320A on the last couple of bids, that would be accurate as the few spots available have been gobbled up by senior pilots bailing off the MD88. There have been bids over the last several years where an April 1996 pilot could have easily been awarded ATL320A, if you chose to bid it.
I'd argue his point WAS close to accurate. Being senior to the plug has not allowed folks in many cases to be awarded the category of their choice. I personally wouldn't say I can hold something my standing AE bid has not been able to achieve. Sure, things will likely change in the year ahead, but that doesn't help a guy who isn't flying where he wants despite the makeup of that category's list.
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
I'd argue his point WAS close to accurate. Being senior to the plug has not allowed folks in many cases to be awarded the category of their choice. I personally wouldn't say I can hold something my standing AE bid has not been able to achieve. Sure, things will likely change in the year ahead, but that doesn't help a guy who isn't flying where he wants despite the makeup of that category's list.
Not being able to hold something and not being awarded it on any specific AE are two separate issues.

If there are no openings in a category that Pilot seniority # 1 bid does that mean he can't hold it?

I would say it means he couldn't get it on that specific AE.

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Old 12-08-2018, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
Not being able to hold something and not being awarded it on any specific AE are two separate issues.

If there are no openings in a category that Pilot seniority # 1 bid does that mean he can't hold it?

I would say it means he couldn't get it on that specific AE.

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Ok, so after how many sequential AEs would you feel comfortable saying a guy can't hold something?

I could be on an island, but if I can't effect a change from my current category to the one I want, I don't think I can hold it. I can say I'm senior to the plug, but that doesn't do me any good (yet). That's particularly true when unlike other carriers, we don't have a regular and reliable timeline to shuffle or trade positions.
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