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Old 10-20-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SayMach View Post
I thought 1.0% was feasible and 1.5% was a given knowing how much more ALPA is getting now than they were 8-10 years ago.
What were you basing 1% feasibility on? What services should be cut? What are the appropriate levels for the OF, OCF, MCF, Kitty Hawks funds et al? What worst case contingencies did you take into account? Right to work?
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
What services should be cut?
Well, the NetJets account for ALPA brass can go. The housing and car allowance for the ALPA Pres. Those items can be cut, along with much more.

The “association” (don’t call it a UNION) is very very top heavy.
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:01 PM
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The “association” (don’t call it a UNION) is very very top heavy.
300 staff members for a highly successful 61,000 member organization? Not top heavy at all.

An amazing decade of performance topped off by the FAA Reauthorization that was a grand slam for pilots.
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:12 PM
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.05 percent. And not until 2020.

Pathetic.
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
300 staff members for a highly successful 61,000 member organization? Not top heavy at all.
300 staff member to do what?
Each airline has their own MEC and most also have LEC staff.
They need 300 people to print me a “Find the Differences” Highlights puzzle at the back of the magazine- that I already get digitally...only to have it printed and mailed to me a few days later? Herndon is too close to D.C....and the spending habits from the politicians seep to ALPA. Burning money.
And don’t get me started on the golden parachute pensions that ALPA brass get. And full health coverage for themselves and family until they die. This is on top of whatever package they get from the airline they belong to.

Basically all ALPA membership took massive pay and benefit cuts the years 2001-2011 (and some have a valid arguement they are still under a pay cut )...yet ALPA MANAGEMENT didn’t take any cuts during that time.
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Originally Posted by FMGEC View Post
300 staff member to do what?
Each airline has their own MEC and most also have LEC staff.
That includes the staff member at each MEC.

Its amusing to see how ill-informed the whiners are regarding what they are whining about. Don't let facts stand in the way of good story.
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Old 10-20-2018, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
That includes the staff member at each MEC.

Its amusing to see how ill-informed the whiners are regarding what they are whining about. Don't let facts stand in the way of good story.
Why do national officers get pensions and lifetime medical? For a “volunteer “ to represent us it seems like a pretty sweet compensation package.

How much of our budget goes to this? I don’t mind the staff as they have a purpose, I really don’t understand why we overpay for a national officer group.
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Old 10-20-2018, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
DAL & UAL account for 60% of ALPA revenue. The effect of regional pay is negligible. ALPA revenues are decreasing due to demographics at the A carriers.
I am pretty skeptical about this. Most airline pay is way up since 2005. I bet ALPA revenues are booming. I would like to see a graph of revenues over time.

Pay is more important than demographics. Every senior captain that retires is replaced by another senior Captain - all at 12 year pay. The pay differential on the NB is minimal. A 12 year 737 guy makes about 275 this year. With the 4% raise that is the same as a 7 year guy in 2019. Pay seems to be have a much bigger impact than demographics.

Do you have any actual revenue numbers or is the decreasing revenue just a hunch?

Plenty of fat to cut at ALPA National starting with the ridiculous Pension of the President. Any decrease he takes while serving should be matched so he comes out even, that’s it. A DB is pretty insulting considering most of us lost ours.

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Old 10-20-2018, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
What were you basing 1% feasibility on? What services should be cut? What are the appropriate levels for the OF, OCF, MCF, Kitty Hawks funds et al? What worst case contingencies did you take into account? Right to work?
Who says there needs to be any cuts? With the rise in wages over the last few years, let’s take a simple look at what expenses are and see what actual dues rate gets Alpa to cover these expenses. Then you take that percentage and add .2% for contingencies. What dues rate would that yield?

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Old 10-20-2018, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
I am pretty skeptical about this. Most airline pay is way up since 2005. I bet ALPA revenues are booming. I would like to see a graph of revenues over time.

Pay is more important than demographics. Every senior captain that retires is replaced by another senior Captain - all at 12 year pay. The pay differential on the NB is minimal. A 12 year 737 guy makes about 275 this year. With the 4% raise that is the same as a 7 year guy in 2019. Pay seems to be have a much bigger impact than demographics.

Do you have any actual revenue numbers or is the decreasing revenue just a hunch?

Plenty of fat to cut at ALPA National starting with the ridiculous Pension of the President. Any decrease he takes while serving should be matched so he comes out even, that’s it. A DB is pretty insulting considering most of us lost ours.

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And most of these officers are senior captains and the last ones who need it. Lets instead donate it to a gofundme for Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos to buy a new Lambo...
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