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sailingfun 10-27-2018 07:34 AM

I think the point was you never have a good thing to say. It’s always negative to a extreme.

bugman61 10-27-2018 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2698565)
This is a productivity and efficiency move. Reserves were essentially useless to them after 9 hours and now more of the 24 hour day is able to be useful on SC. 9hr SC, 10hrs rest, and then back to SC. That's a 3 hour gain in SC usability. I rarely do all 7 SCs in a month. I think that will now change. That would result in fewer reserves required.

Nobody thinks this is an intentional effort to attack QOL,. But, this is an intentional effort the find additional efficiency and productivity within the contract (as they always do.) However, any change which results in productivity means an equal reduction in (increased SCs and flying affecting the good deal reserve) QOL.



I’ll say it again. They can do this today. It happens to me. I get released early from SC for an earlier short call the next day or a trip the next day. Nobody has come up with a single scenario that a 9 hour SC lets them do that they aren’t already doing. If they wanted more guys on SC every day they don’t have to go from 12 to 9 hours, they could just have more on 12 hour SC.

I get it, their reasoning seems weird. It might just be 5% usage, but they are giving it up for no apparent reason other than to be nice. I see why people don’t trust it. But there is no concrete way that this helps scheduling.

notEnuf 10-27-2018 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by bugman61 (Post 2698617)
I’ll say it again. They can do this today. It happens to me. I get released early from SC for an earlier short call the next day or a trip the next day. Nobody has come up with a single scenario that a 9 hour SC lets them do that they aren’t already doing. If they wanted more guys on SC every day they don’t have to go from 12 to 9 hours, they could just have more on 12 hour SC.

I get it, their reasoning seems weird. It might just be 5% usage, but they are giving it up for no apparent reason other than to be nice. I see why people don’t trust it. But there is no concrete way that this helps scheduling.

They are giving up the 5% because they don't need it and they will use more or all of the 7 SCs now. This reduces the number of reserves required and deploys them back into the first 9 hours sooner, gaining productivity. Yes they CAN do this now but don't as a policy. Doing it all the time as policy creates more efficiency.

clear4approach 10-27-2018 07:53 AM

This whole thread is fatiguing.

bugman61 10-27-2018 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2698620)
They are giving up the 5% because they don't need it and they will use more or all of the 7 SCs now. This reduces the number of reserves required and deploys them back into the first 9 hours sooner, gaining productivity. Yes they CAN do this now but don't as a policy. Doing it all the time as policy creates more efficiency.



If most categories don’t max out on SC, and they need more, then why don’t they just assign more 12 hour SC?

doug_or 10-27-2018 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by bugman61 (Post 2698617)
I see why people don’t trust it. But there is no concrete way that this helps scheduling.

They're not paying a scheduler to answer the "please sir, may I be released early" phone calls. After 8 pages that's the only thing the comapny is getting that I can see.

RonRicco 10-27-2018 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2698620)
They are giving up the 5% because they don't need it and they will use more or all of the 7 SCs now. This reduces the number of reserves required and deploys them back into the first 9 hours sooner, gaining productivity. Yes they CAN do this now but don't as a policy. Doing it all the time as policy creates more efficiency.

I hope you will present a resolution at your next council meeting supporting a move to make 12 hour SC mandatory.

doug_or 10-27-2018 08:39 AM

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notEnuf 10-27-2018 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 2698661)
I hope you will present a resolution at your next council meeting supporting a move to make 12 hour SC mandatory.

Because the last 3 hours are statistically useless. This will result in fewer reserves required because they are more useful and productivite. (fly more, not just saved for emergencies)

This will shift us to a more short call based system. Delta’s long call is an anomaly in reserve systems. And much less efficient.

bugman61 10-27-2018 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2698666)
Because the last 3 hours are statistically useless. This will result in fewer reserves required because they are more useful and productivite. (fly more, not just saved for emergencies)



This will shift us to a more short call based system. Delta’s long call is an anomaly in reserve systems. And much less efficient.



Just because you keep repeating this doesn’t make it true. They can assign more SC today. And they don’t do it.


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