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01-11-2019, 10:18 PM

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I’d be interested to see the numbers on what tax rates here would have to be in order to support a universal health system. Basically either way we’re going to pay for healthcare because there is no free lunch.

In the Canadian system, which is NOT the best, they pay 4% of their total health care dollars for administrative costs.
In the US system, which is THE most expensive, we pay 17% of our total health care dollars for administrative costs.

In 2017 we spend $3.5 Trillion on Health Care.

13% of 3.5 trillion = $455 BILLION dollars we WASTED last year...that is the amount we would have saved by using Canada's administrative system...$455B...

01-12-2019, 05:08 AM

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In the US system, which is THE most expensive, we pay 17% of our total health care dollars for administrative costs.

And 99% of those administrative costs are postage on denial letters

01-14-2019, 10:14 AM

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This is one example that shows that Our Health is too important to be left in the hands of people desiring more money.

My first choice is Sweden's Health Care system (#1 in the world), my second choice is Canada's (much better than ours), and my third preference is Medicare For All. Medicare is currently the most efficient Health Care System in the US.
Note: The new Amazon/Warren Buffet companies/Morgan Stanley Health Care system may prove to be a viable candidate to the above...

Toyota was putting in a new factory: Ontario or Arizona were the finalists. They choice Ontario for two reasons:
1-Toyota didn't have to mess with Health Care...all of their employees would be in OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan).
2-Ontario residents were more highly educated and trained than Arizona residents, because Ontario spent more money on education than Arizona did, so it would cost less for Toyota to get them up to speed.

Its this last point I take contention with. Does Ontario spend more money than Arizona on education? Does the amount of money spent equal better education? I submit the US as the chief failure here. Most money spent of any major country. And where do our kids test at relative to other countries?
Maybe the test should focus more on feelings. We'd come out on top!

01-14-2019, 10:21 AM

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Ontario has a HUGE problem: Americans crossing the border to get into the OHIP program and use their system without paying for it.

I'm sure that VERY RICH Canadians are coming to the US for care. The US system is FANTASTIC if you can pay cash for ALL your health care needs.

Why do so many US citizens go to Mexico or Thailand for treatment? Why is Malaysia the #4 retirement destination?...partly because of their fantastic Health Care System.

..Yet nobody ever gets to the root of the problem...Lawyers.
As long as someone can sue for billions when the procedure doesn't go as planned, doctors will charge millions for their procedure...just to pay for malpractice insurance.
Does SWEDEN have any of those problems? I already know the answer. Do you? More to the point, do you know why?