Next AE: March-April 2019
03-26-2019, 07:17 AM
#1211
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,117
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
They mentioned that senior pilots with more than two years remaining were requesting a training bypass. That limited the bypasses that would be awarded to junior pilots with less time remaining. I bet there will be some surprised pilots in training this time.
My understanding is if they awarded a training bypass to a 1500 seniority pilot with 8 months remaining, they also have to honor 1499 who requested bypass with 3 years remaining. I can't find a contract reference, so please don't take this as fact.
My understanding is if they awarded a training bypass to a 1500 seniority pilot with 8 months remaining, they also have to honor 1499 who requested bypass with 3 years remaining. I can't find a contract reference, so please don't take this as fact.
03-26-2019, 09:43 AM
#1212
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,458
Originally Posted by DETSports
This haha...."The waiting is the hardest part"
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Yes. A real heartbreaker...
Originally Posted by full of luv
Not nearly as hard as 18yrs ago..... waiting to see if I was being displaced back to NYC for the third time!!!! When the AE's are mostly going backward.....that is no fun.
03-26-2019, 09:47 AM
#1213
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,458
Originally Posted by FL370esq
Close....see 22.E.13.b and its exception.
03-26-2019, 09:47 AM
#1214
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,412
That post by BS on SkyHub has caused anticipation to reach fever pitch. Folks are going to be waiting in hope for published results today. I'm guessing tomorrow more likely. Top Men on FB still saying Friday. Interesting times
Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk
Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk
03-26-2019, 09:51 AM
#1216
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by Trip7
That post by BS on SkyHub has caused anticipation to reach fever pitch. Folks are going to be waiting in hope for published results today. I'm guessing tomorr
Deep breaths.
03-26-2019, 09:52 AM
#1217
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,458
Originally Posted by 53x11
Word has it, the company will be pinging MAC addresses and device serial #’s to catch offenders utilizing D WiFi inflight and BS’s Skynet post is bait! 
03-26-2019, 10:27 AM
#1218
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,117
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Yes, that is what I was reading. How does that match with not awarding bypasses because someone senior with over 2 years left requested a bypass? I was more of a math/science/finance guy than reading/contract/law in school.
In short, it isn't a seniority issue, it is a retirement date issue. Seniority is not referenced in the provision.
03-26-2019, 10:35 AM
#1219
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 794
To me it seems like the pilot decides if he is willing to be bypassed, knowing he may have to train, then it's up to the company to decide if they want to do it with all of the factors involved that couldn't possibly be entirely known to the individual pilot. B.S. seemed to be indicating that it was a problem that people requested bypasses. I don't see how that could be? Either they train or they get bypassed.
Perhaps he thinks that these people did not want to train? I think it is more likely that it is putting the company in a pinch. They will get minimal time out of those newly trained pilots so that sucks. Bypassing them and giving them a raise for two years also sucks. They just have to decide what sucks less.
I may be wrong but it seems like a company problem, and pilots are using their contractual rights.
Perhaps he thinks that these people did not want to train? I think it is more likely that it is putting the company in a pinch. They will get minimal time out of those newly trained pilots so that sucks. Bypassing them and giving them a raise for two years also sucks. They just have to decide what sucks less.
I may be wrong but it seems like a company problem, and pilots are using their contractual rights.
03-26-2019, 10:39 AM
#1220
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Originally Posted by FL370esq
The "within" 2 years (currently age 63+) bypass can be unilaterally imposed by the Company, regardless of the pilot's wishes. However, in order to do so, the company must comply with the conditions in the exception. Between age 60 and 63, a bypass may be granted but both parties have to agree (Company and the pilot) and the exception in 22.E.13.b does not apply. While the pilot would likely agree to/ask for a bypass, it is hard to imagine the company would want to bypass someone with 2+ years of availability, even if it is an AE with a 365 day conversion window.
In short, it isn't a seniority issue, it is a retirement date issue. Seniority is not referenced in the provision.
In short, it isn't a seniority issue, it is a retirement date issue. Seniority is not referenced in the provision.
Denny
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
