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01-12-2019, 01:48 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Scoop
I heard that there is talk of opening the 320 base in LAX with minimal crews to start the 6 month clock ticking on a new base. This would subsequently open the door allowing for breaking seat locks - new category.
I understand that the company wants to minimize training but this would only work if the next big AE was more than 6 months down the road. If there is a MOAB in April or May it would still be a new category?
I don't know what to think about this rumor
but, I see it as a CR technique in the future used to minimize Pilots breaking seat locks. Any contract Ninjas know if we have some sort of PWA protection against this sort of contractual end around?
Scoop
I understand that the company wants to minimize training but this would only work if the next big AE was more than 6 months down the road. If there is a MOAB in April or May it would still be a new category?
I don't know what to think about this rumor
but, I see it as a CR technique in the future used to minimize Pilots breaking seat locks. Any contract Ninjas know if we have some sort of PWA protection against this sort of contractual end around?Scoop
01-12-2019, 03:46 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Scoop
I heard that there is talk of opening the 320 base in LAX with minimal crews to start the 6 month clock ticking on a new base. This would subsequently open the door allowing for breaking seat locks - new category.
I understand that the company wants to minimize training but this would only work if the next big AE was more than 6 months down the road. If there is a MOAB in April or May it would still be a new category?
I don't know what to think about this rumor but, I see it as a CR technique in the future used to minimize Pilots breaking seat locks. Any contract Ninjas know if we have some sort of PWA protection against this sort of contractual end around?
Scoop
I understand that the company wants to minimize training but this would only work if the next big AE was more than 6 months down the road. If there is a MOAB in April or May it would still be a new category?
I don't know what to think about this rumor
but, I see it as a CR technique in the future used to minimize Pilots breaking seat locks. Any contract Ninjas know if we have some sort of PWA protection against this sort of contractual end around?Scoop
01-12-2019, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
It’s only a new category for 60 days, not 6 months. I’m curious if it’s not a new category, would a MD get it vs. an AE even if the AEer is senior? My guess is yes and that’s why they’d do it, to minimize training. The more LAX 717 they can get to bid LAX 320 without other pilots being able to bid in the less “catastrophic” the big bid would be. Just a guess. I’m not an expert.
01-12-2019, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
It’s only a new category for 60 days, not 6 months. I’m curious if it’s not a new category, would a MD get it vs. an AE even if the AEer is senior? My guess is yes and that’s why they’d do it, to minimize training. The more LAX 717 they can get to bid LAX 320 without other pilots being able to bid in the less “catastrophic” the big bid would be. Just a guess. I’m not an expert.
Well, now its making sense. If its only a new category for 60 days I also think they will do it.
Sailing - its not a small category, it would just start off will a small bid. After 60 days they do a bigger bid and it does not count as a new category. I don't see this costing the company anything, no ones seat lock is being extended either it just will not let people break current locks.
I also don't see training and simulators as a big issue - its a new category for DAL, not a new air frame.
Anyway we will know soon enough.
Scoop
01-13-2019, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Well, now its making sense. If its only a new category for 60 days I also think they will do it.
Sailing - its not a small category, it would just start off will a small bid. After 60 days they do a bigger bid and it does not count as a new category. I don't see this costing the company anything, no ones seat lock is being extended either it just will not let people break current locks.
I also don't see training and simulators as a big issue - its a new category for DAL, not a new air frame.
Anyway we will know soon enough.
Scoop
Sailing - its not a small category, it would just start off will a small bid. After 60 days they do a bigger bid and it does not count as a new category. I don't see this costing the company anything, no ones seat lock is being extended either it just will not let people break current locks.
I also don't see training and simulators as a big issue - its a new category for DAL, not a new air frame.
Anyway we will know soon enough.
Scoop
01-13-2019, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
The company is very good at exploiting the PWA when they so choose, I have no doubt they would open a very small fraction of a category in order to get the new category status clock ticking and then fully man it 61+ days later. There is plenty of capacity in the 320 training pipeline which could handle a large influx down the road. That said there is a silver lining for a few pilots -- such a move would likely benefit current LAX717 pilots who would have less competition from AE'ers if they MD over to the 320.
01-13-2019, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
So could they offer 1 CA and 1 FO on a new cat and just use them as reserves to cover other bases etc and then completely avoid all the thaws forever? If so, why haven't they dont it already?
01-13-2019, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
AE just showed up in iCrew:
DTW350A: 25
LAX73NB: 25
NYC7ERB: 10
NYC73NB: 135 (?!?)
NYC717B: 40
SLC73NB: 10
DTW350A: 25
LAX73NB: 25
NYC7ERB: 10
NYC73NB: 135 (?!?)
NYC717B: 40
SLC73NB: 10
The high number of NYC73NBs are for new hire classes. The company knows they won’t be filled in this AE.
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