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hammer189 01-11-2019 12:54 PM

Delta just bought Flybe
 
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/virgi...102031864.html

ShyGuy 01-11-2019 06:57 PM

Meh, 30% of Flybe just got bought by VS and Delta owns 49% of VS. That ends up being a really small number :D

GliderCFI 01-11-2019 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2741387)
Meh, 30% of Flybe just got bought by VS and Delta owns 49% of VS. That ends up being a really small number :D

More sources of income than Virgin/Alaska though. Ask me about sources of income in a month.

Excargodog 01-11-2019 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2741387)
Meh, 30% of Flybe just got bought by VS and Delta owns 49% of VS. That ends up being a really small number :D

With a lot of stock held by mutual funds, especially index funds that don’t actively vote their shares, a controlling interest in a company can be a whole lot less than 50%. And yeah, a single company holding 30% of the voting stock can often control it. And anyone holding a 49% share generally WILL control it in most circumstances,

atpcliff 01-11-2019 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by shyguy (Post 2741387)
meh, 30% of flybe just got bought by vs and delta owns 49% of vs. That ends up being a really small number :d

15%...

78910

notEnuf 01-12-2019 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2741440)
15%...

78910

Airfrance owns 31% of Virgin and we own 10% of Airfrance, so it's more than you think.

http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...irgin-atlantic

Denny Crane 01-12-2019 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2741539)
Airfrance owns 31% of Virgin and we own 10% of Airfrance, so it's more than you think.

http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...irgin-atlantic

After looking at the definitions of “Control” and “Affiliate” in our Scope section, I think the argument could be made that we (Delta) have control of more than 49% of VA.....

Any thoughts?

Denny

notEnuf 01-12-2019 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2741570)
After looking at the definitions of “Control” and “Affiliate” in our Scope section, I think the argument could be made that we (Delta) have control of more than 49% of VA.....

Any thoughts?

Denny

It would be a tough argument but may be worth it. The indirect ownership could be characterized as a temporary investment. That opens a whole can of worms for them with regards to the government and stake holding rules and taxes etc. They would fight tooth and nail not to be defined as a majority shareholder.

But yes, you are right in thinking we have effective control. This is the new world order, a few dominant ownership groups and multiple carrier brands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...Airlines_Group

ShyGuy 01-12-2019 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2741408)
More sources of income than Virgin/Alaska though. Ask me about sources of income in a month.

No one brought up VX/AS, irrelevant as that was a merger in this country. The disingenuous thread title that Delta bought Flybe, certainly not alone and the math works out to a very small percentage.

firstmob 01-12-2019 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2741408)
More sources of income than Virgin/Alaska though. Ask me about sources of income in a month.

Are you referring to the possible Alitalia deal?


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