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Denny Crane 01-14-2019 07:00 AM

PCS Military Move
 
Okay, it’s been over 30 years since I exited the Military. Back then you incurred a 2 year commitment. Is it the same nowadays?

My youngest is a 1st Lt in the Army. His active duty commitment is 3 years which is up in early November 2019. Will he add (approx 15 months if he moved now) to his time if he doesn’t put in that he is getting out when his active duty commitment is up? He was ROTC and says he has a 3 year active duty and 4 years reserve commitment.

Thanks for any help.

Denny

Diesel Hawg 01-14-2019 07:08 AM

Denny you still get a 2 year concurrent ADSC extension. I was originally eligible to get out in June of 18. I PCS’d in Sep ‘16 and reset my commitment to Sep ‘18.


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Denny Crane 01-14-2019 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Diesel Hawg (Post 2742598)
Denny you still get a 2 year concurrent ADSC extension. I was originally eligible to get out in June of 18. I PCS’d in Sep ‘16 and reset my commitment to Sep ‘18.


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Thanks. If he doesn’t want to extend, I assume he needs to put in his paperwork (DOS). By doing this the Army can still move him just not extend his active duty commitment. Correct?

Denny

DWC CAP10 USAF 01-14-2019 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2742607)
Thanks. If he doesn’t want to extend, I assume he needs to put in his paperwork (DOS). By doing this the Army can still move him just not extend his active duty commitment. Correct?

Denny

You are correct.

Denny Crane 01-14-2019 07:37 AM

Thanks!

Denny

LJ Driver 01-14-2019 09:01 AM

Hey, something I can actually contribute intelligently about.

My knowledge is AF specific but it is likely a DOD rule. It depends on the PCS, OCONUS to CONUS is 1 year commitment, CONUS to CONUS is 2 years, CONUS to OCONUS is driven by your DEROS, usually 2 years with no dependents and 3 years with dependents.

If he would incur any commitment past his current one, he can turn down that commitment and they can either waive it and PCS him or keep him in place, with an established DOS.

Denny Crane 01-14-2019 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by LJ Driver (Post 2742673)
Hey, something I can actually contribute intelligently about.

My knowledge is AF specific but it is likely a DOD rule. It depends on the PCS, OCONUS to CONUS is 1 year commitment, CONUS to CONUS is 2 years, CONUS to OCONUS is driven by your DEROS, usually 2 years with no dependents and 3 years with dependents.

If he would incur any commitment past his current one, he can turn down that commitment and they can either waive it and PCS him or keep him in place, with an established DOS.

Thanks for the info. I just talked to him and the move is from Kansas to Missouri. Not far. He asked his battalion XO and the XO said it was a 1 year commitment. I told him he might want to check with the base personnel office or the Army personnel office (where ever that is) about the length. If it's one year, he's okay with that. It would extend him about 5 months.

Denny

Hawk739 01-15-2019 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2742587)
Okay, it’s been over 30 years since I exited the Military. Back then you incurred a 2 year commitment. Is it the same nowadays?

My youngest is a 1st Lt in the Army. His active duty commitment is 3 years which is up in early November 2019. Will he add (approx 15 months if he moved now) to his time if he doesn’t put in that he is getting out when his active duty commitment is up? He was ROTC and says he has a 3 year active duty and 4 years reserve commitment.

Thanks for any help.

Denny

How he could have a 7 years total commitment? I’m ROTC 2LT. With 8 years commitment, I’m reserve component, that might be the cause of a year less of service 🤔

Denny Crane 01-15-2019 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Hawk739 (Post 2743220)
How he could have a 7 years total commitment? I’m ROTC 2LT. With 8 years commitment, I’m reserve component, that might be the cause of a year less of service 🤔

I thought his commitment was 3 years total but he’s telling me it 3 years active and 4 reserve. Long story but he did not go thru on a scholarship (my fault but then again......I paid for it) hence the 3vs4 year active duty commitment.

Denny

Hawk739 01-15-2019 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2743369)
I thought his commitment was 3 years total but he’s telling me it 3 years active and 4 reserve. Long story but he did not go thru on a scholarship (my fault but then again......I paid for it) hence the 3vs4 year active duty commitment.

Denny


I went through scholarship lol it makes sense now! Take care and thank you for your service.

Denny Crane 01-15-2019 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Hawk739 (Post 2743383)
I went through scholarship lol it makes sense now! Take care and thank you for your service.

Ditto!

But, frankly, when I was on active duty from September ‘81 to August ‘88.........nothing of consequence happened! The two big things were Grenada and the raid on Libya. I was in the Guard till the middle of ‘91. Papers exiting Guard are dated July ‘91. Saddam H went into Kuwait in August and my Guard unit got deployed in December. Missed it by that much!:eek::)

So I defer any kudos to my older son who spent a year over in Afghanistan and my younger son who is active duty now.......when a lot is going on in the world and here in the US. They are the ones (along with every other person in the military) who deserve it.

Now, I do use the parking for veterans only at Home Depot!:D

Denny

BeatNavy 01-17-2019 07:42 PM

Every military service obligation (MSO) is 8 years. No way his is only 7. Likely it’s 3 years active and 5 reserve (active or IRR). Typically non scholarship ROTC or OCS is 3 active, ROTC scholarship is 4, and service academy 5. At least that’s what I remember.

A PCS ADSO in the army conus to conus is 1 year. Everything ADSO related can be found in AR350-100...just open the pdf and search PCS.

http://dopma-ropma.rand.org/pdf/AR350-100.pdf

Denny Crane 01-17-2019 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 2745239)
Every military service obligation (MSO) is 8 years. No way his is only 7. Likely it’s 3 years active and 5 reserve (active or IRR). Typically non scholarship ROTC or OCS is 3 active, ROTC scholarship is 4, and service academy 5. At least that’s what I remember.

A PCS ADSO in the army conus to conus is 1 year. Everything ADSO related can be found in AR350-100...just open the pdf and search PCS.

http://dopma-ropma.rand.org/pdf/AR350-100.pdf

Thank you for that document. His ADSO is 3 years. I didn't see any reference in that document for the reserve obligation. I'm just going by what he thought it was.

Also, according to that document, it looks like his PCS move obligation should be 1 year from arrival at his new station. He's good with that. It would add about 5 months to his AD.

Thanks again!

Denny


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