“We will abort.....if the aircraft won’t fly”
03-08-2019, 11:06 AM
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“We will abort.....if the aircraft won’t fly”
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-rele...R20190307.aspx
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20190307.aspx
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20190307.aspx
03-08-2019, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
03-08-2019, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
In that case I don't think the LCA had the savvy of the flying pilot. Sometimes you have to make it up as you go.
03-08-2019, 10:23 PM
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Wow, well done Captain! It’s interesting that the event was on March 8, 2017 and on March 22 the NTSB had a press release with what would in the end be the cause of the accident/incident. They didn’t stop there though. They worked to figure out how using computer simulations. In the 2019 press release they explain what happened. “Investigators determined that a component of the elevator flight control system had jammed in the days before the accident flight while the aircraft was parked at Ypsilanti Airport during a wind storm with recorded gusts in excess of 60 mph. Although the flight control system was designed and certified to withstand such horizontal gusts, computer simulation of the wind flow showed that a nearby hangar generated localized turbulence with a vertical component that could move the elevator rapidly up and down, ultimately causing it to jam”. I don’t know anything about this event other that what I’ve read here but it seems to me the crew did everything right and the Feds worked hard to confirm that. Well done.
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-rele...R20170322.aspx
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-rele...R20170322.aspx
03-09-2019, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Razor
Wow, well done Captain! It’s interesting that the event was on March 8, 2017 and on March 22 the NTSB had a press release with what would in the end be the cause of the accident/incident. They didn’t stop there though. They worked to figure out how using computer simulations. In the 2019 press release they explain what happened. “Investigators determined that a component of the elevator flight control system had jammed in the days before the accident flight while the aircraft was parked at Ypsilanti Airport during a wind storm with recorded gusts in excess of 60 mph. Although the flight control system was designed and certified to withstand such horizontal gusts, computer simulation of the wind flow showed that a nearby hangar generated localized turbulence with a vertical component that could move the elevator rapidly up and down, ultimately causing it to jam”. I don’t know anything about this event other that what I’ve read here but it seems to me the crew did everything right and the Feds worked hard to confirm that. Well done.
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-rele...R20170322.aspx
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-rele...R20170322.aspx
03-09-2019, 05:59 AM
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It is a lousy design. Can not believe it is still going with no position monitoring.
The first time you fly it after a heavy application of type IV most folks wonder aloud, "how did they ever sign off on this ..."
Good work Captain and kudos to the NTSB for "science the ****" out of it.
The first time you fly it after a heavy application of type IV most folks wonder aloud, "how did they ever sign off on this ..."
Good work Captain and kudos to the NTSB for "science the ****" out of it.
03-09-2019, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It is a lousy design. Can not believe it is still going with no position monitoring.
The first time you fly it after a heavy application of type IV most folks wonder aloud, "how did they ever sign off on this ..."
Good work Captain and kudos to the NTSB for "science the ****" out of it.
The first time you fly it after a heavy application of type IV most folks wonder aloud, "how did they ever sign off on this ..."
Good work Captain and kudos to the NTSB for "science the ****" out of it.
03-09-2019, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Every time I get into the 717 flight deck, with the virtually opaque-when-wet windows, useless wipers, and let's-use-a-mirror-to-look-at-the-standby-compass, I'm amazed ...
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