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TMoney 03-14-2019 10:35 PM

LAX 717 Displacement
 
For all the LAX 717 folks getting forced out, is there any reason to bid the next category we want as an AE or VD? We will all be granted whatever we put in the Mandatory Displacement and therefore be free of the seat lock?

Thanks from a new-ish guy!

Omar 111 03-14-2019 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by TMoney (Post 2782772)
For all the LAX 717 folks getting forced out, is there any reason to bid the next category we want as an AE or VD? We will all be granted whatever we put in the Mandatory Displacement and therefore be free of the seat lock?

Thanks from a new-ish guy!

Not really. You might go to training a little sooner if you bid an AE, but you’ll incur a two year seat lock(none with MD) and not receive the paid move you’re entitled to from a MD.

Also, just so you understand, you can only go where your seniority can take you, not whatever you want. There has to be someone junior to you in the category you want to MD into.

sailingfun 03-15-2019 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by TMoney (Post 2782772)
For all the LAX 717 folks getting forced out, is there any reason to bid the next category we want as an AE or VD? We will all be granted whatever we put in the Mandatory Displacement and therefore be free of the seat lock?

Thanks from a new-ish guy!

There is zero reason. Both your AE bid and VD bid should be blank unless you are the charitable type and want a freeze, no paid move and other benefits.

AlphaBeta 03-15-2019 03:52 AM

As sailing said, do not put in an AE or VD. The union will hopefully put out the same memo it did a few years ago about this to help people understand their benefits under each situation.

Han Solo 03-15-2019 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by AlphaBeta (Post 2782798)
As sailing said, do not put in an AE or VD. The union will hopefully put out the same memo it did a few years ago about this to help people understand their benefits under each situation.

I just got the memo in my email.

Trip7 03-15-2019 10:13 AM

Absolutely no reason to AE or VD for LAX guys

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Humboldt 03-15-2019 10:21 PM

There is an obvious swap of 717 pilots to the A320 in LAX going on. In the company’s world, it would be ideal if all 717 pilots bid the A320. But in the real world that probably won’t happen.

So here is a hypothetical, since LAX is currently an all Boeing base, let’s say that the top 50 717As don’t ever want to fly an Airbus and decide to MD bid LAX 737A. Could they theoretically bid MD’s to the 737 in LAX and displace 50 current LAX 737 captains? Those 737As would probably become A320A but still, should junior LAX 737As be prepared for displacment?

m3113n1a1 03-15-2019 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by Humboldt (Post 2783417)
There is an obvious swap of 717 pilots to the A320 in LAX going on. In the company’s world, it would be ideal if all 717 pilots bid the A320. But in the real world that probably won’t happen.

So here is a hypothetical, since LAX is currently an all Boeing base, let’s say that the top 50 717As don’t ever want to fly an Airbus and decide to MD bid LAX 737A. Could they theoretically bid MD’s to the 737 in LAX and displace 50 current LAX 737 captains? Those 737As would probably become A320A but still, should junior LAX 737As be prepared for displacment?

Probably. Unless the company decides to keep it fat. Because inevitably some 717As will choose the 737 over the 320 like you said. So I'd say if you are junior in any LAX category you have a possibility of being displaced.

Herkflyr 03-16-2019 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2783425)
Probably. Unless the company decides to keep it fat. Because inevitably some 717As will choose the 737 over the 320 like you said. So I'd say if you are junior in any LAX category you have a possibility of being displaced.

More like, "if you are junior in ANY category, anywhere" you have a possibility of being displaced. Almost all pilots should have a MD preference inputted, "just in case."

FL370esq 03-16-2019 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by Humboldt (Post 2783417)
There is an obvious swap of 717 pilots to the A320 in LAX going on. In the company’s world, it would be ideal if all 717 pilots bid the A320. But in the real world that probably won’t happen.

So here is a hypothetical, since LAX is currently an all Boeing base, let’s say that the top 50 717As don’t ever want to fly an Airbus and decide to MD bid LAX 737A. Could they theoretically bid MD’s to the 737 in LAX and displace 50 current LAX 737 captains? Those 737As would probably become A320A but still, should junior LAX 737As be prepared for displacment?

You are correct. No LAX73NA vacancies have been published so, if no LAX73NA bids out of the category thus creating a contingent vacancy, there would be 50 contingent displacements from the 73N. The company cannot arbitrarily elect to increase the size of a category as the result of an AE/VD/MD run in order to avoid/minimize contingency displacements. The exception to this would be pilots awarded a training bypass or who will retire within the conversion window. Not sure how many B73NAs would qualify for either though.


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