Outstanding Chairman’s Letter
#31
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Sailing likes to tell us the horrors of other well-paying jobs. None that I know of ask their employees to risk skipping once-in-a-lifetime events (graduations, weddings, etc.) or completely bypass promotion. I appreciate your attempt to lower our expectations, but I refuse to yield total control of my annual schedule to simply continue along a normal career progression with this family at Delta. It won't be hard to take back small bits of schedule control if it's the will of our union to prioritize this particular QOL-enhancer.
A wise management team would recognize the value of some more short- and long-term schedule control...if they really want to reduce "unpredictable" and expensive sick leave use. Until they do...a dad/mom/husband/wife/son/daughter's gotta do what a dad/mom/husband/wife/son/daughter's gotta do. CPOs will tell you the same thing in whatever code is the approved code-of-the-moment, I'm told.
A wise management team would recognize the value of some more short- and long-term schedule control...if they really want to reduce "unpredictable" and expensive sick leave use. Until they do...a dad/mom/husband/wife/son/daughter's gotta do what a dad/mom/husband/wife/son/daughter's gotta do. CPOs will tell you the same thing in whatever code is the approved code-of-the-moment, I'm told.
#32
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I’m sick of the posturing and chest-thumping by this MEC’s staunchest supporters. Get meaningful, long-lasting results that are in the best interest of our pilot group or get out of the way. In other words, walk the walk.
GP
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#33
There should be some kind of preposted golden day like recurrent one a quarter so you can bid with confidence that you will get that day you need.
Denny
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Denny
#35
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I came onboard close to the tail end of the TA-1 debacle. So, from my perspective this MEC’s supporters seem far more desperate and vocal to the point that it’s becoming tiresome. That’s just my personal observation.
Unity - that should be everyone’s goal but we are nowhere close to that, I’m afraid. I don’t lay that at the feet of any particular faction within our group. The current MEC is the batter at the plate. If they don’t deliver on their posturing and rhetoric, it’s time for them to go. I will give them time to get a TA together. That’ll be their judgement day in my book.
GP
#36
I gotta ask.....How much experience do you have being part of a union in Section 6 negotiations? With your screen name I’d guess you were/are exmilitary? To me, you are coming across as already impatient for a deal and we haven’t even entered negotiations yet let alone reached the amendable date! How much time will you give them? Better question is how much time will you give the company? EB has already said don’t expect a deal this year. I think you need to hold the company’s feet to the fire and back your union 100% in Section 6........no matter who is at the helm of the union. Without unity we are not going to be overly successful.
Denny
Denny
#37
I have seen this posted a lot. I've only been around for 1 round of contract negotiations. Why wouldn't he say that? Our PWAs amendable date isn't until 31Dec, so isn't he just stating the obvious? Or has it been common in the past to get a contract signed before this date? Historically, when have negotiations started?
#38
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I gotta ask.....How much experience do you have being part of a union in Section 6 negotiations? With your screen name I’d guess you were/are exmilitary? To me, you are coming across as already impatient for a deal and we haven’t even entered negotiations yet let alone reached the amendable date! How much time will you give them? Better question is how much time will you give the company? EB has already said don’t expect a deal this year. I think you need to hold the company’s feet to the fire and back your union 100% in Section 6........no matter who is at the helm of the union. Without unity we are not going to be overly successful.
Denny
Denny
All I’ll say is I’ve got an all civilian background with well over a decade of 121 time all with ALPA carriers. This exasperation is directed towards the non-stop chest-pumping on social media about how great this MEC is. I haven’t seen a single thing happen to back up those claims.
I’m not impatient for a deal. As I’ve already stated, I’ll give this MEC the time that is required to get a TA as long as it doesn’t pit one subgroup of Delta pilots against another. Talk about lack of unity if that happens. If it isn’t a grand slam to match the rhetoric, I don’t see how they can hold on to power. I simply believe they are backing themselves into a corner with unnecessary hyperbole that could epically backfire if they can’t deliver further eroding faith in our union.
GP
#39
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I have seen this posted a lot. I've only been around for 1 round of contract negotiations. Why wouldn't he say that? Our PWAs amendable date isn't until 31Dec, so isn't he just stating the obvious? Or has it been common in the past to get a contract signed before this date? Historically, when have negotiations started?
The Railway Labor Act requires both parties to negotiate in good faith.
Our executives repeatedly violate our contract and now refuse to negotiate in good faith.
The rules don’t apply to them.
#40
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[QUOTE=GuardPolice;2784232]All I’ll say is I’ve got an all civilian background with well over a decade of 121 time all with ALPA carriers. This exasperation is directed towards the non-stop chest-pumping on social media about how great this MEC is. I haven’t seen a single thing happen to back up those claims.
I’m not impatient for a deal. As I’ve already stated, I’ll give this MEC the time that is required to get a TA as long as it doesn’t pit one subgroup of Delta pilots against another. Talk about lack of unity if that happens. If it isn’t a grand slam to match the rhetoric, I don’t see how they can hold on to power. I simply believe they are backing themselves into a corner with unnecessary hyperbole that could epically backfire if they can’t deliver further eroding faith in our union.
Go to one single day of an MEC meeting. Talk with all the reps and the 3 negotiators. Incredible people making huge sacrifices to further our profession.
Then come back here and share your take after meeting them.
The sad and pathetic old guard constantly spews nonsense to divide the group and help management.
I’m never asking you to believe a word I say, I’m asking you to meet the selfless leaders you are criticizing.
I’m not impatient for a deal. As I’ve already stated, I’ll give this MEC the time that is required to get a TA as long as it doesn’t pit one subgroup of Delta pilots against another. Talk about lack of unity if that happens. If it isn’t a grand slam to match the rhetoric, I don’t see how they can hold on to power. I simply believe they are backing themselves into a corner with unnecessary hyperbole that could epically backfire if they can’t deliver further eroding faith in our union.
Go to one single day of an MEC meeting. Talk with all the reps and the 3 negotiators. Incredible people making huge sacrifices to further our profession.
Then come back here and share your take after meeting them.
The sad and pathetic old guard constantly spews nonsense to divide the group and help management.
I’m never asking you to believe a word I say, I’m asking you to meet the selfless leaders you are criticizing.
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