Outstanding Chairman’s Letter
03-17-2019, 05:43 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
I have a guarantee, it’s called the PWA. It says how my employer will handle my employment. The discussion is about improving that guarantee.
Stop dumping on your coworkers that are suggesting ways to improve QOL at work. There are a lot of ideas and they should be considered. Try considering what you would like to see improved and then provide that to the union so they know what issues are important to the pilot group.
Let’s get an improved contract for the group. Let’s also get teeth in it to put an end to the company's violations.
Stop dumping on your coworkers that are suggesting ways to improve QOL at work. There are a lot of ideas and they should be considered. Try considering what you would like to see improved and then provide that to the union so they know what issues are important to the pilot group.
Let’s get an improved contract for the group. Let’s also get teeth in it to put an end to the company's violations.
How good was that 'guarantee' post-9/11? All I'm saying is that this is a fickle business, and things happen that you or anyone may not anticipate.
I'm all for contractual gains but to believe they are set in stone is naive.
03-17-2019, 06:24 PM
#52
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Originally Posted by beernutt
How good was that 'guarantee' post-9/11? All I'm saying is that this is a fickle business, and things happen that you or anyone may not anticipate.
I'm all for contractual gains but to believe they are set in stone is naive.
I'm all for contractual gains but to believe they are set in stone is naive.
You’re right, they aren’t written in stone. You’re also right that 9/11 and other events changed a lot of “guarantees.” You’re wrong to compare that type of event to an incredibally profitable company willfully violating the contract they agreed to because it suits them, though. Apples to llamas.
You’re also wrong to dump on people who are voicing ideas to improve the contract prior to negotiations. What’s the point to your actions? Is it a troll game or are you showing off your “sizable” business knowledge?
03-17-2019, 06:24 PM
#53
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Originally Posted by gzsg
The Railway Labor Act requires both parties to negotiate in good faith.
Our executives repeatedly violate our contract and now refuse to negotiate in good faith.
The rules don’t apply to them.
Our executives repeatedly violate our contract and now refuse to negotiate in good faith.
The rules don’t apply to them.
03-18-2019, 06:09 PM
#54
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
I understand ups and downs. I also understand bankruptcy, I’ve been at a bankrupt employer. I’ve been affected by recessions and law changes. So have a lot of other people. I know they aren’t set in stone and can be adjusted by bankruptcy and negotiations. They should not be adjusted by one party just because they don’t want to comply.
You’re right, they aren’t written in stone. You’re also right that 9/11 and other events changed a lot of “guarantees.” You’re wrong to compare that type of event to an incredibally profitable company willfully violating the contract they agreed to because it suits them, though. Apples to llamas.
You’re also wrong to dump on people who are voicing ideas to improve the contract prior to negotiations. What’s the point to your actions? Is it a troll game or are you showing off your “sizable” business knowledge?
You’re right, they aren’t written in stone. You’re also right that 9/11 and other events changed a lot of “guarantees.” You’re wrong to compare that type of event to an incredibally profitable company willfully violating the contract they agreed to because it suits them, though. Apples to llamas.
You’re also wrong to dump on people who are voicing ideas to improve the contract prior to negotiations. What’s the point to your actions? Is it a troll game or are you showing off your “sizable” business knowledge?
Lots of you arbitrating right and wrong here. I looked at your post history, you did it an awful lot of that on the Endeavor forum, as well as more than your share of trolling and ‘dumping on others’. Look up psychological projection, then look in a mirror.
Next spring ALPA will send me my 30 year pin, I’ve worn a silver one for 5 of those years. You trying to lecture me on unionism is a joke. Go back to the regional forums where you’re a slightly bigger fish in a much smaller pond.
03-19-2019, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by beernutt
Lots of you arbitrating right and wrong here. I looked at your post history, you did it an awful lot of that on the Endeavor forum, as well as more than your share of trolling and ‘dumping on others’. Look up psychological projection, then look in a mirror.
Next spring ALPA will send me my 30 year pin, I’ve worn a silver one for 5 of those years. You trying to lecture me on unionism is a joke. Go back to the regional forums where you’re a slightly bigger fish in a much smaller pond.
Next spring ALPA will send me my 30 year pin, I’ve worn a silver one for 5 of those years. You trying to lecture me on unionism is a joke. Go back to the regional forums where you’re a slightly bigger fish in a much smaller pond.
03-19-2019, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
Oh my goodness, I didn’t realize who I was talking to. Oh king salmon please forgive me... /s
That's better. Now lose the backpack, take the sunglasses off the top of your head, and ease up on the hair gel. All you young people are alike.
Where's my back pills?
03-19-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by beernutt
That's better. Now lose the backpack, take the sunglasses off the top of your head, and ease up on the hair gel. All you young people are alike.
Where's my back pills?
Where's my back pills?
03-19-2019, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by beernutt
Next spring ALPA will send me my 30 year pin, I’ve worn a silver one for 5 of those years. You trying to lecture me on unionism is a joke. Go back to the regional forums where you’re a slightly bigger fish in a much smaller pond.
03-19-2019, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
I hope you and everyone else here are voting for politicians who are sympathetic to organized labor and who support judges who are also not biased against labor. The rules do apply, what changes is how laws are created, interpreted and implemented.
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