Dropping whole month
03-20-2019, 04:34 PM
#21
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Well... I guess we’ll see in the 12+ months or so during Section 6. The company likes to create “issues” for us just before contract time that we then have to trade/negotiate for. Perhaps we’ve just done the same
03-20-2019, 06:16 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
Too bad we got rid of the deal where you could do that and get paid 50 hours.
03-22-2019, 06:04 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
40 is greater than 0 no?
Is 25?
How much are the KLOA’s paying?
What did the mec get in return for showing they had the big stick in this instance? Same thing with VB’s. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have eventually killed one or both, but why not try to extract some permanent mid-contract value in exchange for a month or two of VBs and/or SILs?
All bravado and no brain. We really showed ‘em.
Is 25?
How much are the KLOA’s paying?
What did the mec get in return for showing they had the big stick in this instance? Same thing with VB’s. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have eventually killed one or both, but why not try to extract some permanent mid-contract value in exchange for a month or two of VBs and/or SILs?
All bravado and no brain. We really showed ‘em.
03-22-2019, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
You act like there's no upside. With greater staffing reserves will fly less, that's a good thing. It incentivizes senior pilots to bid RES which lets more junior pilots bid a line if they desire. Even junior pilots in my category aren't coming anywhere near filling up. While I won't say that sitting an unused SC or LC isn't working, it's certainly not the same as flying a trip. I'm not on a SIL, but I'm getting a full 72 hours of pay for significantly less than 72 hours of block. This wouldn't be the case if 6-9 dudes in my category were out on SILs.
03-22-2019, 01:05 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
This is the greater good that is served by not having SILs. All boats are floated a little higher versus the Hatteras owner dredging his own channel.
03-22-2019, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
In that same spirit, then, we should all push for ending the ALV+15 loopholes with swap with pot and pilot swap board. Raise all the boats and all.
03-22-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
In that same spirit, then, we should all push for ending the ALV+15 loopholes with swap with pot and pilot swap board. Raise all the boats and all.
Also that means less reserve flying. Staffing is based on block hours. No SILs means more aggregate pay and less flying per reserve.
My real problem was with the company’s interpretation that the scheduling committee chairman’s support is implied thereby reducing the union’s explicit power to deny them if they pay to little. That’s reason enough to **** it down. We were on a path to relinquish power by inaction.
03-22-2019, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
In that same spirit, then, we should all push for ending the ALV+15 loopholes with swap with pot and pilot swap board. Raise all the boats and all.
03-22-2019, 03:51 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Missed it completely. Group versus individual. The swap is a benefit that everyone can use to adjust their schedule. I’ve done that ALV swap then dropped a different less productive trip to get closer to the GS trigger with more days off.
03-22-2019, 04:35 PM
#30
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Man, we're on a roll. Why stop there. Let's reduce the ALV to 60 hrs and none up this pick up to ALV + 15 crap. Just think of how many CAPT positions we could create!! Rising tide and all. Think of the growth in pilot hiring......why, they won't be able to man the air line..... just think of the power we will yield going into negotiations.
You guys crack me up.....Did ALPA and MGT explain that we are a seniority based system....not a socialist based system.....been watching the MSNBC and the 20 Dem hopefuls much?
You guys crack me up.....Did ALPA and MGT explain that we are a seniority based system....not a socialist based system.....been watching the MSNBC and the 20 Dem hopefuls much?
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