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Shammy 04-04-2019 04:25 PM

Working For Delta But Based In Europe?
 
Hi,

Is it possible or does it ever happen, that you have your US pilot credentials, and FAA medical, and work for Delta or other majors, but base yourself in Europe? (granted you have permission to reside there legally)

ie Do any US airlines have Europe hubs to reside near and work from?

Jkurtfly 04-04-2019 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Shammy (Post 2796359)
Hi,

Is it possible or does it ever happen, that you have your US pilot credentials, and FAA medical, and work for Delta or other majors, but base yourself in Europe? (granted you have permission to reside there legally)

ie Do any US airlines have Europe hubs to reside near and work from?

No passenger airlines. FedEx has a pilot base in Cologne, Germany.

sailingfun 04-04-2019 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Shammy (Post 2796359)
Hi,

Is it possible or does it ever happen, that you have your US pilot credentials, and FAA medical, and work for Delta or other majors, but base yourself in Europe? (granted you have permission to reside there legally)

ie Do any US airlines have Europe hubs to reside near and work from?

There are several Delta pilots who commute from Europe.

Shammy 04-04-2019 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2796369)
There are several Delta pilots who commute from Europe.

When you say commute from Europe, do you mean they fly for example from where they live in say London, to New York, then start working on their flight from JFK to wherever,.....then spend their days off traveling back home?

Or they fly from where they live in Europe?

Shammy 04-04-2019 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2796369)
There are several Delta pilots who commute from Europe.

When you say commute from Europe, do you mean they fly for example from where they live in say London, to New York, then start working as a pilot from JFK

Or they live near where they start their work from specific hubs or commute to those hubs......

Does anyone have a contact?

DABAviator 04-04-2019 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Shammy (Post 2796377)
When you say commute from Europe, do you mean they fly for example from where they live in say London, to New York, then start working as a pilot from JFK

Or they live near where they start their work from specific hubs or commute to those hubs......

Does anyone have a contact?

Commuting means commute... so yes that means flying as a passenger on your time off and then start working out of JFK or whatever base. A contact for what?

tennisguru 04-04-2019 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Shammy (Post 2796372)
When you say commute from Europe, do you mean they fly for example from where they live in say London, to New York, then start working on their flight from JFK to wherever,.....then spend their days off traveling back home?

Or they fly from where they live in Europe?

Basically every trip will start and end in the U.S. Some will start with a deadhead but I would think those trips are very much in the minority. Most people that I've talked to that commute from overseas try to group their trips together in close succession then group a bunch of days off so they're only commuting a handful of times a month rather than before and after each trip. Also keep in mind that at least at Delta it's very probable that you will start on a domestic-only narrowbody like the 737 or A220, so you'll have to do that for a couple of years minimum before you can even sniff some international flying. And of course even at that point you'll be on reserve quite a bit and I really don't think even with a 12 hour call out you'll be able to be in Europe for any of that.

The good news about reserve at Delta is with a little seniority you can group the entirety of your reserve obligation into one long stretch, again minimizing the times you'd need to commute.

Shammy 04-04-2019 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2796381)
Basically every trip will start and end in the U.S. Some will start with a deadhead but I would think those trips are very much in the minority. Most people that I've talked to that commute from overseas try to group their trips together in close succession then group a bunch of days off so they're only commuting a handful of times a month rather than before and after each trip. Also keep in mind that at least at Delta it's very probable that you will start on a domestic-only narrowbody like the 737 or A220, so you'll have to do that for a couple of years minimum before you can even sniff some international flying. And of course even at that point you'll be on reserve quite a bit and I really don't think even with a 12 hour call out you'll be able to be in Europe for any of that.

The good news about reserve at Delta is with a little seniority you can group the entirety of your reserve obligation into one long stretch, again minimizing the times you'd need to commute.

Hey thanks for this blunt but detailed assessment of what it would entail.

Are any of these Delta specific cadet programs any good, or have you just as much chance working for Delta by training anywhere and working regional and then applying as a pilot direct to Delta later on some day?

ZeroTT 04-04-2019 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Shammy (Post 2796383)

1) Are any of these Delta specific cadet programs any good, or
2) have you just as much chance working for Delta by training anywhere and working regional and then applying as a pilot direct to Delta later on some day?

Definitely #2

Sniper66 04-04-2019 10:39 PM

Shammy

Assuming you have the right to work in the United States,
A 4 year college degree

Then

You will need to spend, based on today’s pilot market , I would say 4-6 years at a regional airline before you can be competitive for a job at Delta or any other Major

PS
you will need 1500 hours with some exceptions and ATPL certificate to apply with the regional airlines

LeineLodge 04-04-2019 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by Shammy (Post 2796377)
When you say commute from Europe, do you mean they fly for example from where they live in say London, to New York, then start working as a pilot from JFK

Or they live near where they start their work from specific hubs or commute to those hubs......

Does anyone have a contact?

Sent you a PM...

Extenda 04-05-2019 03:16 PM

Flew with a 320 captain that commuted from Frankfurt area. He would try to string a 2 day with a four day to minimize amount of commutes. Said he got delta 1 almost every time and also had 2 Lufthansa backups. He said it was way less painful than one would think. Super interesting dude.

recce driver 04-06-2019 05:49 AM

Extenda PM sent.

NoDeskJob 04-06-2019 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by recce driver (Post 2797439)
Extenda PM sent.

Recce...can I get a copy of that PM as well. Interested in details

recce driver 04-06-2019 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by NoDeskJob (Post 2797475)
Recce...can I get a copy of that PM as well. Interested in details

PM sent
Recce

flightbag 04-08-2019 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Shammy (Post 2796359)
Hi,

Is it possible or does it ever happen, that you have your US pilot credentials, and FAA medical, and work for Delta or other majors, but base yourself in Europe? (granted you have permission to reside there legally)

ie Do any US airlines have Europe hubs to reside near and work from?

Hey! You're putting the cart before the horse. First you need to get hired. After that you can live wherever you want. It's that simple.

ed153a 04-09-2019 12:10 AM

In Frankfurt Area
 

Originally Posted by recce driver (Post 2797548)
PM sent
Recce

Recce,
I’d appreciate that info as well. I’m an expat currently living in the Frankfurt area and am looking to be considered in the near future. Fingers crossed!


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