Trip mix at Delta
04-22-2019, 02:32 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
Everyone, repeat after me: SHORT CALL REPORT TIME IS NOT 2 HOURS, UNOFFICIALLY OR OTHERWISE.
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04-22-2019, 03:55 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by NoDeskJob
Nope. I’d be open to it...depending on days worked/pay.
04-22-2019, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
Everyone, repeat after me: SHORT CALL REPORT TIME IS NOT 2 HOURS, UNOFFICIALLY OR OTHERWISE.
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This has been generally accepted to be 2 hours under normal conditions. This is not written in the contract.
The beauty of the ambiguity is that it protects the pilots if there is a wreck or weather issue.
04-22-2019, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
Have you had this provision at a prior airline? I have and no amount of lipstick on that pig would make it bearable unless it were 100% voluntary on the reserve’s part.
Voluntary only, and each day sitting Standby reduces total reserve days required by one, and adds 2 hours pay above Reserve Guarantee
04-22-2019, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
Have you had this provision at a prior airline? I have and no amount of lipstick on that pig would make it bearable unless it were 100% voluntary on the reserve’s part.
04-22-2019, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
You have to be “promptly available.” This is what the contract says.
This has been generally accepted to be 2 hours under normal conditions. This is not written in the contract.
The beauty of the ambiguity is that it protects the pilots if there is a wreck or weather issue.
This has been generally accepted to be 2 hours under normal conditions. This is not written in the contract.
The beauty of the ambiguity is that it protects the pilots if there is a wreck or weather issue.
That obviously does not give you the license to sit short call for DTW from Cali... Those guys ruined it for the rest of us
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04-22-2019, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
THIS. It is NOT 2 hours, is not written anywhere official, and should stay that way for our protection.
That obviously does not give you the license to sit short call for DTW from Cali... Those guys ruined it for the rest of us.
That obviously does not give you the license to sit short call for DTW from Cali... Those guys ruined it for the rest of us
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04-22-2019, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
I don't think anyone is advocating to make the 2 hours a hard and fast set in stone thing in the PWA, are they?
Q1) Someone asks how long is the call out for short call? A) promptly available. Q2) well how long is that? A) about 2 hours.
Fast forward weeks/months/years and people only remember 2hours as that is easier to stick in the mind. Then when the question is asked again the quick response comes out as 2 hours. Not malicious just how information changes from here say instead of reading the source document.
My opinion only.
04-22-2019, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
I don't think anyone is advocating to make the 2 hours a hard and fast set in stone thing in the PWA, are they?
I know YOU know this, but for the newer pilots/OP... As long as you are actually in position, don't get a ticket or drive unsafely trying to get there in 120 minutes - if needed, tell CS you'll be there as soon as you can, and give them a realistic time frame with known & legitimate traffic/weather/other issues.
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