BobZ

Ther wer a cuple of news stories of these incidents on our flights. Involving crew and pax.

The offending animal i recall was a type most of us ' uninformed' dopes wud put in a class of animal bred for physical and behaviorial traits that make them responsible for half the fatal maulings in the US.

So call them tinkerbell if you want. Most will understand the class with one simple 3 letter descriptor.

Standing at gate i had 'roid boy walk up with abt a 70lb male. Uneutered. His ESA. My FAs were frightened of the animal. Im wondering how i cant bring scissors thru security but this guy and his dog are no problemo?

The duty pilot tells me delta will replace us all before denying boarding to a ESA. ADA and all. I told him if this continues its not a matter of if...but when.

Turns out this event with the pax face had happened abt 6 mos prior. So delta already knew there was a problem.

We have had pax and crew injured by ESA. It was an idiotic open policy that thankfully has had some level of sanity now installed.

freezingflyboy

Actually, the law does NOT require accommodation of ESAs. That's just a genie that the airlines let out of the bottle years ago and Delta has been one of the few organizations taking steps to put it back in.

https://www.adatitleiii.com/2018/08/...out-the-truth/

See also,
Can you really bring a peacock on a plane? Service and support animals, explained. - The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...als-explained/

I wonder if some liability might help influence the airlines to put a stop to this nonsense.

gloopy

Objection: deep pockets.

Sustained.

Herkflyr

Did you not read this part of the article?

"Airplanes. The Air Carrier Access Act (ACAA), not the ADA, governs accommodations for people with disabilities on airplanes. The Department of Transportation (DOT) is responsible for enforcing the ACAA rules. Historically, the rules have required accommodations for emotional support animals, but recent abuses of the rules by passengers seeking to bring all manner of animals such as peacocks and pigs onto planes has caused the DOT to revisit this issue in a pending rulemaking."


While the ADA doesn't compel airlines to accommodate ESAs, other government channels do. Ridiculous. The airlines should have protested the whole ESA concept the first moment a Stalinist in DC put out the whole ACAA language, enabling an entire class of neurotic, narcissistic sorts.

NOW there is a move (led by Delta thankfully) to rein this stuff in. Too bad it had to get to this. I feel very bad for the mauled passenger. Never should have happened. But that would actually entail saying "No" to someone and checking their entitled self.

FL370esq

Deep pockets.......and Delta is a common carrier and common carriers are held to a much higher standard of care than you or I which means it is relatively easy to prevail in a negligence claim against an airline. Double whammy when the deep pockets have a different negligence standard.

3 green

Dogs are getting out of control at a lot of business places. You can't even go into Home Depot now without seeing multiple people who feel it's necessary to take their dog shopping. Pretty sad. No emotional support dogs should be on the plane at all. If someone needs emotional support they certainly should not be flying.

Flying Monkey

7 or 8 years ago we had a woman onboard with an emotional support goose. Wearing a diaper.

Edit - The goose was wearing a diaper. I’m not going to guess what undergarments the woman was wearing.

freezingflyboy

2 years ago I had two "ESAs" get into a fight during a flight. Now I gotta ask, how emotionally supportive is your snarling, barking, barely controllable animal being when the mere presence of another animal "emotionally supporting" its owner sets you off? Definitely got a hard eye roll and a "boot em both!" from THIS liberal millennial.

ShyGuy

An emotional support peacock at EWR. IIRC, United denied the passenger.

badflaps

Back in the day, as a ramprat, I had the opportunity to board in the animal bin, dogs cats and birds. I arranged them in the order of natural selection. Never heard how that worked out.